It only triggers once, for each character that you enter the zone with because it is tied to that particular quest. You don’t have it done on all of your alts. The camera angle is what matters in this scenario, Blizzard is able to show a better scene by, at least in a limited sense, controlling the camera angle and the camera angle can make all the difference in how you see certain parts of the game world. For example:
https://i.imgur.com/hPm39UL.png
https://i.imgur.com/RP431xF.png
Both of those images are of Icecrown Citadel. The first image is how most players would have seen Icecrown Citadel for the first time, because they would have been flying since it was unlocked at level 77. The second screenshot is how players might have seen Icecrown Citadel for the first time if flying wasn’t enabled in Northrend and they were still using ground mounts by the time they got to that area of Icecrown.
See the difference? In one it’s just ‘cool-looking terrain’ but in the other, there is an imposing feeling there, because you’re looking up at this dreadful citadel which is towering over you. Or at least, that would have been the goal.
Player insists that a removal of a feature is players fault despite players wanting that feature and despite developer deliberately removing said feature for their differing views.
Flying is what really made the game great, now I am not about to sit here and say Classic was rubbish without flying, it was truly great, it was one of the first of the current gen MMO’s and it is what made everything great, this game was and still is king even after all these years.
What we have now is not what it was, but it is also better than what there is.
Classic was great without flying, it was the first of it’s kind, it allowed us to find our feet in what was many years of enjoyment to come, being the first of a generation no one knew what was going on and the added enjoyment of flying just made it better.
We need the dev team to realise, flying made everything better and they should be designing levels with this in mind, levels that need flying, levels that cannot be explored without it. They want us to be immersed, than immerse us, give us something to immerse ourselves in and allow us to explore like floating islands, underwater zones, caves that are way in the sky, enemies that cannot be engaged until you fly to them.
Stop making zones that need us to be on the ground and maybe your playerbase will be happier overall.
“Moderation.” Hmm, sounds like what the Red Chinese government is mandating for Chinese gamers. Their government is requiring American developers to include surveillance systems in their games (like WoW) to track play times of specific individuals in order to force “moderation” in gamers. This ties into their social credit system. Interesting read.
“How U.S. video game companies are building tools for China’s surveillance state” https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2019-07-21/american-game-developers-china-surveillance
I was and wasn’t there when it happened, I started playing WoW in December 2015, so the tail end of WoD, but while leveling, I was used to “hit X level and buy flying with gold”, then I get to 100 and try to find the vendor, didn’t find it, then a friend told me about the Pathfinder thing.
I made it basically my only goal in the entire game to get that thing done and well, I got it done, didn’t really like the rep grind, but oh well.
Then Legion came, I at least had fun with the content, so I didn’t mind going for Pathfinder.
But BfA is just bad, time gated content, arbitrary time gating for flying, AP grind that managed to be worst than the Legion one and so on.
This is correct. They observed this in MoP, and it’s the reason the isle of giants, isle of thunder, and timeless isle are non flying. That said, wow, you got a lot of hate for that observation.
I would argue that Pathfinder is the symptom of a larger design problem for WoW right now.
Hypothetical question: Why would I, as a player, invest in the playing the game at the release of a expansion when everything is at its most difficult, when there is no flying, and when any of the new expansion-only systems they’ve introduced has whatever flaws they do WHEN I could wait a year for
-Flying to be finally put in
-Catch up systems make the introductory content MUCH easier to do than it was at the beginning
-They’ve ironed out a lot of the new expansion-exclusive systems?
I mean…it just seems so self-defeating to deliberately gate desired content artificially like this. The player base isn’t stupid, many have caught on that it would be better for them to just wait a year so they can play the game they might actually want to play rather than endure Blizzard stumbling around for 10-12 months as they figure out what they want to do.
I mean, I enjoy playing the game even at its weak points, but after Legion and WoD I’ve started to wonder if maybe it isn’t worth investing in WoW until the x.2.5 or x.3 patch of an expansion at this point and saving my subscription dollars for something else during those gaps.
Now, to actually respond to the topic at hand: I like that Pathfinder is an account wide thing that you get once and then you have it forever, but the rep grinds are completely contrived. I would rather they replace the rep grind with a requirement that you kill every boss in every dungeon, regardless of dungeon difficulty and then once you do all of that, you get flying immediately.
I would argue that Blizz ought to have the metrics by now, after going over the numbers in WoD and Legion and now BfA, and then comparing it to the previous four expansions that had flying readily available, that withholding flight has no measurable benefit to the game.
It’s absolutely false. I rushed through everything in 8.2 just to fly. I didn’t take my time and enjoy it like I would have if I could fly from the beginning. Pathfinder is just a punishment to all those that love flying and didn’t allow Blizzard to outright remove it going forward.
oh I hit a nerve. if being a manchild is someone who accepts and doesn’t cry when I don’t get my way then i’m guilty. Its not about being good, either its about the obsessive complaining you guys do and waste minutes of your time for what? a game. The adults aren’t talking, the children are. My 10 year old does the same thing when he doesn’t get his way, tries to argue about it thinking it will change. No the adults have spoken this is how it is accept it, move on, stop complaining. But lets be fair that wont happen, there will be 50 more threads like this, and guess what, Blizzard wont do a darn thing about it. So you’re right have at it. BTW you say i’m wasting my life on a video game? nah, if I don’t like something I just go do something else, I don’t complain obsessively about it on a forum.
i’m a fantastic role model, my kid is top of his class, he sets goals, and follows them up. He’s 10, he doesn’t complain, as he’s learned that it only makes it worse and compromises other goals he has. He’s a fantastic individual and my 2 year old will follow, and be successful adults.
i want flying because new zone design for Blizzard is to shove a million mountains and hills and rocks in between everything and make zones a real displeasure to traverse on foot whereas vanilla zones are usually plains that are satisfying to walk through.
If any of that is true I’ll bet your kid doesn’t know about your nasty and insulting internet side. Wonder what he’d think if he knew how his dad laughed at and insulted other people just because they enjoy a certain feature of a game? Bet he’d be REAL proud of you.
nasty and insulting? or just calling it like I see it, and he is real proud i’m his dad…can your dad say the same thing about you? i doubt it. you seem to have a thing for me, its almost stalkerish, you reply to everything i say like clockwork. its a little weird. I’m in a committed relationship. i’m sorry. i’ll be waiting for your response…like clockwork.