I think I got it fixed. Youtube was coming through and finally I got twitch to work again… SLOBS widgets blah… but I appreciated the heads up.
Let me know next time if its busted again or my mic ill throw my whole setup out I swear lol
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More is relative.
I’m glad you finally tried it. Even with a full 1-minute build I’m running Quickened Invocation for the Divine Hammer uptime. I fully anticipate Templar running QI even in single target.
I also really like the combo it creates. Wake, HoL, DT feels really good.
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Agreed.
I was determined to run with Seal of the Templar (25% increased damage is no joke) but with the hotfixes to Vengeful Wrath and Divine Exaction, I did the quick math in my head.
The burst damage with Quickened Invocation and Divine Exaction is insane, despite the HoPo overcap it does in M+. I was talking with LvLaden and we both came to the conclusion this rotation will work for both PvP and PvE.
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Playing this way, what would the sequence be from the pull?
Despite the overcap of HoPo, it would be (assuming it’s Templar)—
Both Judgement/Blade of Justice, WoA, HoL, Divine Toll/Exaction, Spender, continue rotation.
Adding Burning Crusade, Burn to Ash and possibly Sanctify greatly increases Divine Hammer. For me personally Divine Hammer has jumped up all the way to third place on the dps meter.
Blade of Justice with 1 or 2 Holy Power?
Two.
That’s why I said You’re gonna unfortunately overcap on HoPo with the initial opening. I asked LvLaden about this as well but he’s convinced it’s worth the overcap getting the extra 5% damage from BoJ.
The problem for now is that there’s still a bug with HoL in where the Judgement it delivers isn’t consumed and evaporates in 2 seconds. Thus the reasoning for both BoJ and Judgement.
question, isn’t not taking divine resonance mean less judgements cast? which means less chances for mastery to proc?
How does that impact anything in particular?
Remember, with Divine Exaction, Divine Toll cast an additional two times. Yes in M+, it overcaps on HoPo but the burst damage it does, especially if it’s Hammer of Wrath combined with Vengeful Wrath (now that they fixed the bugs), is nothing short of insane. That burst damage is worth the overcapping of HoPo.
Which is why I personally use RG to have Divine Exaction turn into HoW every time I cast it.
The last time we had this much burst was with the CD stacking, and Blizzard nuked us right after…
Maybe we’ll still have less damage than the other classes,
but if we get this much burst, Blizzard’s gonna make us explode again.
Trust me, I’m somewhat worried about that myself. The one saving grace we have right now is that ret is on the lower end of the totem pole now in terms of dps. So hopefully, we won’t be seeing nerfs anytime soon (unless you’re an Arms Warrior).
I’m just screaming into the void right now to get the bad vibes out…
But boy r dee if now that we finally have bugs fixed, and it identifies gameplay that Blizz wants to change, now, at the effective end of the beta cycle - I’m gunna be so sad.
I know things cant be perfect and there is limited time in a day, but if fixing these bugs so late they let fester cheats us of meaningful feedback/beta development I’m gunna…
… I guess play Prot and grumble.
If the worst were to happen, I could finally decide to use a Haranir and create the Fury Warrior I’ve been wanting for a long time.
use double judgement i’m throwing out hammers. 30 seconds is god tier atm but come 90 we need more wing uptime no way we wont…. RC + DT + HoW (doubles up and gets stronger) and HoL and ES. divine hammer is if still works toss in BoJ light within procs pvp youll want more than 12 seconds no?? u wont have enough globals lol.
idk i’m canking 30 sec atm. at 90 i’m iff on it. plus exaction just decimates but its also prepatch.
is burn to ash still working with divine hammer?
i’m doing double the dmg with 1 minute wings and divine resonance in the same amount of time as 12 second wings. i stop when sanctify drops on both
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on par with blizzard, at least we didn’t get into expac with bugs this time around.
i put in some overtime with RG build… its booming. I hope exaction doesnt get nerfed. our 2 and 4 pc is dog water for next season but at least the tier gear looks BAF lol
They better not go watch my clips in fear of nerfs and taking down 3-4 ppl solo 
over and over again.
I might try QI for 30 sec dt with wake and 1 min wings. See how that feels. Curious have good mini burst and longer wings could be interesting… To the bat cave! Tonorrow im tired…
ES + wings on same CD and wake and DT on another almost best of both worlds plus pumping DHs…
I was literally mowing down people in AB blizzard all of horde jumped BS and I let it rip lol. My killshot addon was going off like no other. Turalyonn watched some I think haha
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Dude, you ain’t helping “Da Cause.” 
If Blizzard sees your video, you will be the SOLE reason why we get nerfed. 
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I cant help it! Just another day for me in these 20+ years playing ret 