Patch 9.1 doesn't move the needle

I have tried the PTR in great length and I have discovered that Patch 9.1 doesn’t change the paradigm of the current sinking direction of WoW. In fact what I discovered is regression.

Historically, the first patch is a building block towards the rest of the expansion and something to be optimistic about. But with patch 9.1. there is more confusion than clarity.

  1. Not enough class balance happening.

This is self explanatory and BlizZard has argued you need to wait for a season to balance classes. Well the season ends with patch 9.1 release so a new season can begin right? Not so fast where is the class balancing? Patch 9.1.5 could have balancing of classes but by then the season is under way. And if the season is under way that would violate the core goal BlizZard has of not doing balancing passes during a season.

Furthermore, if patch 9.2 is going to be a late 2021 or early 2022 release that implies that class balancing if not sufficient for patch 9.1 is on the backburner. Why?

  1. Covenant legendaries and reworking of torghast is sucking all the developmental energies.

It seems the opportunity cost of working on covenant legenaries and torghast is not giving enough time for class balancing. In fact where is the balancing of existing legendaries that no one uses? And why do legendaries exist that can be a trap for new or inexperienced players?

  1. Korthia isn’t going to be appealing to people that want more content. Korthia is the type of content for super casuals to engage.

Korthia in theory should have broad appeal but you quickly find out that Korthia is very niche in appeal.

In addition, Korthia introduces multiple currencies and this feels very punishing to new and returning players to navigate. It feels like you are spending more time swimming against the stream than having a game play flow in a positive directoin.

  1. PVE gearing still feels bad.

Korthia gearing isn’t bad but it is still sub par and then you have to factor in that PVP gear is still going to be the best entry level due to being deterministic.

The flipside though is where more problems lie.

  1. PVP gear being a lower ilevel is not a solid plan.

In theory PVP gear being a lower ilevel would accomplish three goals. First is to ensure PVE players do not feel forced to do PVP. Second is to reduce boosts which plague rated PVP experience for legit PVP players trying to climb rating. Third it is supposed to make PVP gear the best in PVP.

The first goal isn’t going to work as I stated in point 4 that PVP gear even with lower ilevel is still going to be coveted by PVE players. The second goal may reduce boosts by PVE players but boost by PVP players may increase. And the third goal of PVP gear being best in PVP may hold true only for gear that is fully upgraded in theory. Because PVE gear like Korthia may be easier to obtain and use in PVP!

  1. Domination…? NO.

The point of systemlands expansion was to have all the systems in at the start of the expansion. This is a betrayal of that primary objective. Furthermore, this now impacts the legendary system and people may have to regrind legendaries. Also this impact the vault which also means to me that there was no planning with domination involved.

If there is no planning with domination that to me also indicates that the future of patch 9.2 is also murky and up in the air. 50/50 that it even releases as a full fledged patch. And if it does release as a full fledged patch I do not see the expansion after this expansion coming out for a loooooooong time IMVHO.

Overall patch 9.1 is a solid patch to have to come out a few months after launch of expansion. But at this point the patch comes too late and doesn’t improve the core game either.

More specifically scaling in the old world and legacy raids are broken.

The level squish is still rife with problems from launch.

And yes bugs reported in beta and PTR still exist.

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I do think it tickles the taint, though.

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Well said.

While I’m looking forward to 9.1 and I’am infact excited about new content, I think this is looking like something which should have been in 9.0 if there were no delays or the pandemic.

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Korthia has archaeology stuff so I have my archaology hat ready to go. And then there is flying.

But beyond that? Looking like a very, very ordinary patch.

Not sure for such an extended delay IMVHO!

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Wait the “it’s not possible to have archaeology in shadowlands” suddenly doesn’t exist?

What’s happening lmao

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You assume statements are true and consistent … Neither is that case lol.

What statement are you talking about what case is this?

I imagine they lost a lot of devs recently.

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Was it confirmed that they lost more than the esports specific people?

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100% Agreed. Not really anything to say here.

These are two separate issues.

Covenant legendaries are a pointless time-sink, I agree.

The Torghast revamp is not pointless though. The last iteration I played on the PTR was a lot of fun - it salvaged a bad system and made it fun, which seems very much worth the dev effort. A lot of time already went into Torghast and so spending just a bit more time to redeem it and make it fun is worthwhile IMO.

Uhm, yeah, but casuals don’t have content right now, so that’s probably a good thing.

I don’t care about Korthia, but there’s the new Torghast, the new M+ Affix, and the new Raid to care about for a progression minded player.

Does it? Not sure where you’re getting this from.

Valor upgraded gear and PvP gear have the same ilvl and Valor upgraded gear is targetable and farmable. Sometimes you’ll have cursed RNG but for most guilds PvP will not be required this tier.

Domination gear is just glorified set items. Be chill my dude, lol.

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I know right? LMAO

BlizZard in beta: Sorry, we don’t have time to work on archaoelogy as it is not part of shadowlands lore anyways.

BlizZard in patch 9.1: Lulz here are some puzzles, artifacts and rep grind towards learning the history of Korthia!!!

:clown_face: :world_map:

:surfing_woman: :surfing_man:

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Good lord did they really say that?

It always amazes me how selective Blizzard is with bug fixing. They have more than enough resources to fix everything reported, but somehow do not manage those resources well enough to get the job done.

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Yeah thats a lie, they heavily nerfed spirit shell and MM during 9.0.5 lol.

How are they a trap? Because they perform worse? Guarantee it won’t be the reason new players play poorly. It would just be their inexperience with the game causing that.

No but basically they admitted they had to cut stuff out from being worked on as they fell behind.

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… yes?

Literally yes? You understand the premise of a trap right? You stick your hand into the trap and it gets caught. A rookie player, or even an intermediate player can sink soul ash into a legendary only to find out it sucks and simply lose those resources. In 9.0 with time-gated soul ash that was beyond brutal. 9.1 is uncapping soul ash and removing the time-gate on them so it is less of a trap, but it still sucks to lose that gold and other resources as well as your time.

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They already are likely performing their rotation poorly or have the wrong talents. So if they find out that their legendary sucks they will likely also find out their entire build/stats suck for their class. Aside from the fact they could also be the wrong covenant, soulbind etc it is not reasonable to expect blizzard to be able to balance all of the legendaries to the point any one is viable in almost any situation. And besides, these players might not be in the mindset of maximizing their damage.

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Wonder if they mentioned the exact profession

Oh no, Casual’s are getting content, shock horror…?

It’d be nice to have something to actually do, there’s next to nothing to do if you don’t Raid / PvP.

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They aren’t going to cover that in detail. We hear about people like Jeff leaving, we don’t hear about Bob or Todd leaving.