If Blizzard were to make a BC server, Do you think it would be easier than it has been for Vanilla? Assuming it would be sense they now have experience doing Vanilla. Which would possibly be released faster than Vanilla?
Letâs see how Classic goes before we speculate on redoing the rest of WoWâs history.
I doubt that even TBC or Wrath servers will have the same nostalgia draw that Vanilla did though, so the ROI is likely to be a lot less.
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Given that they have a team for it already, and that they could work forwards from the Classic client instead of backwards from the Legion one I would imagine they could make a TBC or WotLK server a bit faster.
If they would actually release it in a shorter amount of time is another question.
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Iâm not so sure about that. Concurrent WoW subs continued to grow through BC and peaked in WotLK. By those measurements you could say with some objectivity that BC and Wrath were more popular than vanilla.
Absolutely, Im not pushing for a BC server. Just curious now they figured out a way with classic would it then be easier.
Should be substantially easier.
It would have to be easier. Now that they figured out how to do the whole âOld graphics into modern clientâ trick the outland should be a breeze considering the content in TBC hasnât really been touched at all since itâs release. The only thing they would have to worry about is tweaking values to match TBC and once again they will hit another huge debate wall⌠Which version of TBC should you use? Just like vanilla, tbc had majorâŚmajor changes to it so I couldnât imagine the actual development side of things would take longer than the discussion part of how they want to implement it.
And donât even get me started on WotLK lol. I can already hear it⌠BRING BACK OG DKâs
If they have a 1.12 database in backup, I imagine they have TBC ones as well which covers the numbers.
I would suspect that theyâd follow suit with any future Classic expansion servers and use the final patch as the one to go with for the âwhich versionâ debate.
You could, but those expansions were also more focused on making the game balanced, and including some of the QOL additions like LFD that led to the systems we have today. So you could just as easily argue that the folks who would enjoy those expansions (and I am one of them) also wouldnât mind just playing retail.
At the very least, itâs unlikely that there are enough users in that penumbra (enjoy TBC/Wrath but donât enjoy Classic or Retail) that it would justify hosting and maintaining yet another version of the same game.
That would be kinda awesome actually. Frost/Unholy tanks? 2H Frost? Fun fun.
And thatâs what I am saying, because almost all the raids that I can think of in TBC were nerfed pretty damn hard at some point in TBC. Honestly I could see just going off the last patch of TBC being a much bigger issue for raiders in TBC than it was in Vanilla. Iâm not saying they wouldnât know what the numbers are but what numbers they should use.
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That would not be awesome for non dk players though lol. Pvp would be just who has the best DK knowing what we know now. And pve I couldnât see much use for any other dps really lol.
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Itâd be a big issue, though it happened in Vanilla too and theyâre using 1.12 anyway, which many argue trivializes anything short of AQ40/Naxx.
It doesnât seem like Blizzard cares a whole lot about trying to recapture multiple versions of the game during each expansion and trying to make each raid/dungeon close to its original launch difficulty.
Though with WotLK iâd be curious about the 30% buff they added to ICC to try to push people through to clearing it before Cata dropped, and if they would bother including that given that it would have no time limit in a Classic WotLK server.
The other issue with TBC/Wrath is that there is no big value proposition other than the class balance. Outland and Northrend were unaffected by the Cataclysm - if you want to see those areas and their dungeons/quests as they stood pre-Cata, you can still do that today in retail. So you would lose even the âtouristâ appeal.
Very true.
Good point. Perhaps not. But I suppose that will be for Blizzard to decide.
I personally wouldnât mind seeing BC and Wrath servers. More than likely Iâd play them.
Yes, I think that theyâve already figured out the lionâs share of how to convert the data, already developed all the tools, so moving on to creating BC Classic would be faster. Additionally, the impression I got when they talked about having to really search for 1.12 and earlier data is that Blizzard has backups of later stuff.
At this point, the big concern Iâd have for BC Classic is them using data from the last patch (Isle of Quelâdanis). Seriously, I understand the concerns with 1.12 making MC somewhat trivial compared to how it was at release because of what the 2.4 patch did to BC content - removing attunements, nerfing dungeons, and more.
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The bigger issue I see is population. As much as Iâd love Classic to have the same sub numbers it did back in the day, it probably wonât this time around. Now take that already smaller number and split it into 3 since some people would stay on Classic servers, some on BC, and some on Wrath. I canât see that being worth the investment for Blizzard from an ROI perspective.
I imagine that Blizzard will only consider TBC/WotLK if Classic is actually popular enough.
Though to be fair we also donât really need 8+ million players again, since the real population that matters is server population and thatâs not more than a few thousand.
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BC and LK would be easier to redo since the zones didnât get completely revamped when Cata came out like vanilla did. Initially all they did was nerf xp/lvl and start making some elites in the world nonelite. Itâs why people complained endlessly about having to lvl through those 2 xpacs because it was still set up in the old fashioned way.
And DKâs werenât OP in LK like they became in Cata onwards. They were pretty easy to kill. For a pally at least. All of a paladins skills could come into play fighting DKâs. If he pops his army, use holy wrath for massive dmg and stun while letting them stew in your consecrate. Use turn undead on his pet if he has one while you focus on him. And if you force him to use his ability to become undead to stay alive, then you can use everything on him like exorcism, turn undead, and holy wrath. And he uses diseases which are easy for paladins to dispel.
I certainly hoping you are ignoring the first couple patches of WotLK. They were hands down THE most OP any class has ever been in the history of this game by a mile in every single aspect of the game in early wotlk.
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I donât know how you figured that out, vanilla had 8 million subscribers over a 2 year period while BC and Wrath added only 4 million over a 4 year period.
Vanilla was the most successful era, BC and wrath just rode the coat tails of the success.