…so is it by design that old raids are blocked from being done with Party Sync?
It’s like you took my one hope and request of this new feature and have deliberately and arbitrarily blocked it from being possible.
Let me timewalk old raids blizzard without an event restriction blizzard. Honestly just let us have fun with old content for once.
They can even make it so gear doesn’t scale up.
It would just be nice to be able to do them - at least kind of how they were at the time - for the fun. Timewalking is limited to just one raid per expansion after all.
Why not make ICC or Blackrock Descent available again? It would be a great social activity for guilds.
Honestly I don’t see any good reason why we can’t scale down without a lowbie player for the same reasons. There are so many old quests that I’ve skipped on characters that I’d enjoy doing at the right level.
They’re worried about the tier sets, trinkets, and gem sockets making farming old raids mandatory for progression raiding.
So… remove the old sockets and make tier/trinkets not scale up.
Job done.
I would really like to be able to use party-sync to hit up old raids though. That would be amazing.
To me it seems like making tons of content available with little work.
I’m sure one’ll see the typical ‘Well there’s no incentive’. Except a lot people see playing the game itself as the incentive, because actually playing a game supposed to be fun, not slogging through it to get the carrot at the end.
a lot people see playing the game itself as the incentive
That would be me lol. I find it puzzling when people complain about scaling of old content as if it’s such torture to them that content be an actual challenge, cause it just sounds to me like they don’t like playing the game in the first place.
To each their own, I guess. But I still see no reason to not have the option to actually play play old content.
I mean…I am not against it. But I guess Blizzard didn’t think there would be more than 12 people gamewide that would use “raid sync”, so it wasn’t a high priority.
Ever heard of project 60? That had zero structural support in-game and got a following. Asmongold apperently spent like 2 hours yesterday getting requests from his chat to try to do raid sync in the ptr, which unfortunately turned out to not be possible.
But yeah I’m sure theres just nobody who would be interested because you personally are not.
Party Syncing your 120 toon down to 60 seems like to completely goes against the purpose of “Project 60”.
“Hey guys, lets try to emulate how WoW was at lvl 60, using no heirlooms, no dungeon finder, no help from your main, dont group with people not part of project 60”
—“Hey, can my lvl 120 friend come if he syncs down to 60 using his 120 non Vanilla/non Project 60 gear?”
“…”
Could you tell me how scaling down to 60 negates any of those points?
You would all be 60.
You would all be using gear scaled to 60.
You would not be able to use dungeon finder as…it’s a raid.
You aren’t using Vanilla gear. You aren’t emulating the Vanilla experience. Which is the entire stated point of Project 60.
Once a scaled down toon is in a Project 60 group, its not longer a Project 60 group.
The entire point of using vanilla gear is so that the game is actually challenging and not a faceroll, which is what scaled down gear solves.
What, so you can’t see people wanting to do old content in a far more challenging way?
The technology is there already-- that means the investment to pay-out ratio is very high indeed. Even if 5% of players use it, that revenue would be a win. You know I strongly suspect more than 5% would venture now and again for the FUN of doing something DIFFERENT for a change.
Not all guilds are stream stream Method now now.
Not what I said.
They probably don’t want to do with trying to scale up old raid gear at this point. Plus I am pretty sure they never intended this feature to be used on a raid scale. It is intended for you to help a friend level up without totally making the experience trivial by face rolling it with your 120.
Actually it is. Raid Sync would mean players can access any raid at any level.
Also many higher level abilities and gear effects are disabled once synced.
Well not at any level, ideally you keep the level floors meaning at level 60 you can do all the classic raids, level 80 BC and WotLK etc.
Not. It isn’t.
Yes, I get that. I also get that outside of Project X raids, I feel that the amount of people participating would be extremely low. Any Project X raid that lets in scaled down toons are no longer Project X raids, imo. Since it goes against the entire point of Project X.
So what exactly is your motive here for being against it? You’re making a baseless claim that the amount of people who would be interested in actually raiding old raids would be low. But even if that were true, which I see no reason how it could be, but even if it were, why do you care?
Do you just not want the devs to work too hard? Why do you care?
Btw I just realized, you do know timewalking is a thing, right? Which has basically the same motivation for players to run them as scaling old content would have, and the queues for those are flooded whenever they open.
I never once stated I was against it. In fact…
Weird.
All I said is that the amount of people that would use it is probably so low that it wasn’t a high priority or they didn’t think to implement it for raids.
If you’re not against it, why are you commenting? What are you attempting to bring to this discussion?