I think the more entertaining aspect of parsing is that it creates a ranked system.
A lot of people like competitiveness. Be it in a pvp game or a PvE where they compete on a “leaderboard”.
Also since this version of the game is so extremely faceroll easy, the ranks make it so it is more “difficult” to win while still playing a crazy easy game.
It also allows people to easily keep track of their “feats”. If they want to try and clear the raid the fastest possible, the logs given them a way to track and manage this type of infrastructure the game does not provide.
I feel your frustration from a ‘newer player’ standpoint.
But hear me out on this one.
I played this game back when it was new when I was like 15-19. Game was full of absolute buffoons. People who couldn’t get past the second quest zone and would quit when they found out just how long it took to get that mount.
Back when this game has 12 million subs it was like, insane. People were playing the game but it was a social phenomenon.
Is that what you were hoping this was? 30-40 something post-covid gen x just hanging out after class? Give me a break dude. WoW is barely a video game by today’s standards, everyone knew it was a full-time job 15 years ago.
A lot of folks causally tuning into SoD after a long break such as me WILL feel that pressure. As someone who has raided - pre bis, researching consumes, quests etc…is a labor of love in itself. If you don’t do it every year then it’s like relearning how to ride a bike every time.
This is my breakdown of the common unsub Andy in these forums (they never unsub)
Resub after years
Squeeze nostalgia rag
‘Okay why TF am I playing this’
Does quests, avoids social interaction until Max level
‘O no, I don’t have time to run dungeons with a causal guild’.
Opens Google News feed ‘Someome says SoD is dead and broken!’
Hasn’t raided or invested anything other than quest rewards and complains about status of community
Explain to me why it matters if you’re #2550 or #2500 top ranked DPS in the world. I mean you’re a blue parser, if you want to get technical, meaning that there are 17,000 people doing more DPS than you. You really want to track that?
People that parse 99s and 100s know how and why they parse, they know the mechs of fights and the mechs of the support form other classes, dont be so ridiculous
I have yet to see a top world parser act like they are above anyone on this forum. Only thing i have seen is whining players complaining about the boogy man that is warcraft logs and the evil gatekeepers
This exactly, ive valued wclogs in helping me understand how to play a class better (with some personal experimentation). Just like anything that aggregates data, some people are going to try apply that information to their choices in stupid ways.
We literally saw this mentality with Gearscore in P1 which half the community has laughed away. wclogs is just a bigger version of that. Absolutely agree its an issue with the social culture around the game
Just another take…
Logs are a primitive metric to determine if someone should be accepted to a group because they don’t actually even track individual’s skill/improvement . There is no log that is unique to your performance as it is 100% relative to your group which is why fast kills = better logs (as just 1 example). I’m not math spec’d but I would think someone could come up with a better representation of skill or improvement over time that better reflects the ‘reality’.
Also, anyone who argues logs not being a key ‘metric’ in determining participation by many in the community is not being genuine. If logs did not have a strong implication in determining participation, we would not see (for example) rogues complaining they can’t find groups because their damage is too low.
You talking about one of my random alts? like this warrior?
here ill give you some parses from vanilla classic, tbc and wotlk (ill prob get more interested in SoD once we hit level 60 and stop doing 10 man leveling dungeons tho)