Pally main here (Avenger shield)

I’ve been a pally main snice 2005 skipped the last two xpac.

I’m going to put this to rest right here and right now ----> NO CLASS <---- should ever have access to Daze period.

Daze is a NPC thing only when you trun your back to a NPC you get punished.

Now that discussion is over

Why is every one throwing a fit about pally. (Its been thing in every xpac the moment a pally is Decent)
They aren’t the best tank, they aren’t best healer, and they are middle of the pack in dps.

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Thank you for summing it up for the monkey men.

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I disagree, I believe Paladin is the best Tank, at least during this phase.

Shammy and prot warrior are better then prot pally right now.

FOMO players are mad, real paladins aren’t

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the shield thing was too much cause it diddnt follow suit with nearly all the other forms of cc being at least trinketable or in the case of slows and hunter daze shiftable.

pallies in pvp do excellent damage are tanky to an extent and have 3 lifebars not to mention being able to offheal and freedom and buff people in and out of their parties .

they have a counter for just about everything someone can throw at them.

im not mad per say . maybe jealous and a bit annoyed when i have to face one who has all their coolies up and know that im in for a 3 min fight to maybe get 2 -2 1/2 bars of life down and die to attrition .

but ya . everyone should be overpowered in some way to make nobody truly overpowered in all ways.

Im going to Disagree with you on the 3 lifebars.
• Lay on Hands doesnt count - its a 1 hour CD, and takes all mana. (It can come in clutch in world pvp when you get ganked snice you never use LOH when questing, but i do think they need to throw Forbearance with LOH on the next update.

Let’s get to the meat and potatoes Divine Shield

If a pally cast Divine Shield and heals they will get off a max of 2 holy lights thats only a half health bar or a full health bar if the heal crts, and they will have no Mana

I can’t believe people don’t remember how to counter Divine Shield (You all have relied too much mass despel) guess i teach you all again.

Pally bubbles in front of you guess what they can’t attack you with anything but judgment so they can’t kill you when they are bubble.

So when a pally bubbles you make him not heal but using a Bandage right in front of him. 2 things will have he will keep healing and now you both reset at full HP and he doesn’t have bubble. Or he will stop you from using the bandage which stops the pally from healing.

the 3rd life bar counts cause i said if they have the coolies up. it is an hour cooldown ill give ya that but it is still able to be used in conjunction with the bubble which gives another life bar fully.

there should be forbearance with the loh and the bubble at the very least.

the pally will never attack when bubbled which means you can heal yourself true but your mana doesnt regen like the pally does with the strike and other stuff. their aoe also heals . nice.

pallies are very very strong . there is not really much counterplay that can last that long of 3 lifebars and they are regening mana at the same rate if not more than you with their blessings and strike.

dont deny reality dude. its not becoming.

Up to a point yes, prolonged fights do not befit a paladin.

good thing most fights vs the pally end quickly with the pallies dmg being what it is due to the very very good weapon class quest they have and very good overall damage.

right?

Yeah the weapon damage nearly matches the one from 1st boss of BFD.
If there’s anyhow serious teamfight I’d say semi-intelligent horde enemies will know how to dispose of paladin’s source of power - their mana.

all 1 of those classes even exist in the game right now?

maybe priest mana burn or do hunters have the mana sting now?

heh. face it . they are very very strong right now. at least operate on reality.

Paladin complainers are the definition of “grass is greener on the other side”.

This is just going in circles, wish you happy holidays.

sure thing .

done with this convo if you cant see it.

gl.

• Bubble and blessing a protection both give the 60 sec forbearance right, and LOH should have that next phase because in classic that was added.

DS healing isnt not even good to think about it

Jumping a pally in world pvp will suck snice LOH will almost always be up but if forbearance is added then that will take care of that

Like i said if a pally bubbles use the frist aid Bandage right in front of there face, most of the time they will freak out and stop you. Which will make them an easy clean up because they forgot to heal snice right now in phase 1 bubble doesnt last long (you cant even bubble hearth)

The CS for me gives like 20 mana doesnt come into play in a pvp fight.

Now i will 100% agree with you that pally’s are the best at fronting load all there damage at once. (This will kinda of get better next phase with reck bomb :grimacing::grimacing:), and damage is crazy for all classes right now

In high level of pvp bubble isnt used as a 2nd health bar but as a CC breaker or you bubble to be Immune to CC, and damage to give maximum support to a team mate