Two issues.
First, the Horde is simply stronger. Not only do they dominate with racials and Shaman utility, but they’ve taken our Alliance racials—what did we get in return? Absolutely nothing. Their synergy in raids is unmatched, and it shows.
Second, Paladins. We’re still stuck as buff dispensers while other classes like Hunters and Shamans bring more utility AND outshine us in DPS. Why are we the “support class,” but can’t compete in damage?
Is this really balance?
I kind of wish I had a ret paladin for pvp, they seem significantly stronger than enh in PvP. But then I’d have to fight eles, and eles are turbo broken.
Thats crazy ret isnt even far
The majority of ret brackets(the more defensive and safe class) are within 100 dps difference of enhance and a lot of rets don’t have WF meanwhile shams can’t even use it! so yes it is balance strap on the dress or shield if you don’t like being balanced middle of the pack with us 
Yeah, Ret Paladins might seem strong in PvP—until you’re face down in the dirt after an Ele one-shots you from half a mile away. Sure, we can stun, but once that bubble’s on cooldown, we’re basically just a squishy target praying for Divine Intervention.
I still get a chuckle over how we got all of your good weapon racials. They should throw Humans a bone over that one.
One of the most random changes they did so far tbh
you mean 25 yards or less?
i mean you guys have a point that the balance between the factions isnt equal but i disagree with some of the other things.
you’re right alot of rets dont have wind furry… Alliance is struggling to find WF for our raids… Horde has two sources of WF on top of better racials, utility and damage. Enchance is doing crazy damage… they even out dps warriors.
More shaman gaslighting
If you wpvp or bg as a melee and dont run engineering you are literally griefing yourself.
Just a crumb of whats left after shamans have ate their fill, thats all we ask sir.
Never knew statistics were gaslighting your just repeating things your fav streamer said ya lootable deadmines pet!
Yup and only 100 dps apart from the less defensive class crazy right?
Mhm enhance and feral 
cant use agi with WF
Delusional haha enh and warriors damage has been on par averaging around 5-11th dps and warriors are slowly climbing above them btw
So break it down to me what exactly is so game-breaking dmg wise
Game breaking? not falling for your strawman.
They do out damage warriors, have you checked the wow-head logs? they pull ahead in damage done to bosses by a decent amount.
The rets in logs have WF… the ones without are bottom of the barrel dps.
im glad you are not in denial about having two sources of WF
Hard to understand that shamans ARE burst and paladins are not, but they are because runes…
Get better?
Including padding
10th percentile - Warrior average 50 more dps Ret averages 70 less dps
20th percentile - Warrior average 20 more dps Ret averages 60 less dps
30th percentile - Warrior averages 20 more dps Ret averages 50 less dps
40th percentile - Warrior averages 15 more dps Ret averages 60 less dps
50th percentile - Warrior averages 20 more dps Ret averages 60 less dps!
60th percentile Warrior on par(9-10th) Ret averages 70 less dps
70th percentile Warrior on par(8-9th) Ret averages 100 less dps
80th percentile Warrior averages 15 more dps Ret averages 120 less dps
90th percentile Warrior averages 20 less dps Ret averages 180 less dps
95th percentile Warrior averages 5 more dps Ret averages 170 less dps
Top 50% Warrior averages 50 more dps Ret averages 120 less dps.
Magmardar the target dummy boss
Warrior averages 150 more dps Ret averages 50 less dps.
jeez almost 200 dps less.
Thank you for doing that deep dive to show the strength of your class.
Amazing utility and damage.
Damn, you cherry-picked the top 5-10% which you arent even apart of!? peak delusion haha
FYI the non-padded bosses ones its only a difference of 50
i parse a fair amount of 90’s some 95’s from time to time.
nice try stickboy
Yes Horde favoritism in SoD is well known.
another shaman cope
Lets use the most accessable information, lets use logs from heat level 1 and then 3 and compare them. Overall both shaman specs (ele and enhance) perform better on average and that is on magmadar as you put it the DPS dummy boss.
Heat level 2 enh shamans are still out performing ret paladins on average by about 200 dps, And then on heat level 3 we are getting gapped still by 200 dps. This is out of all parses on magmadar not “Cherry picking” as you call it. I think comparing numbers between shaman and paladin is important because they are both a faction exclusive class. Also warcraft logs put out a patch for “Padding” on bosses with adds to be removed from your overall parse as far as im aware. So please try again. I play both horde and alliance in SoD and I can tell you right now that shamans feel much stronger to play in the game right now. They dominate in PvP and they dominate in Raid. If you actually want to talk numbers im down, but these wild claims do more to hurt the community than help it.