Can we just get Divine Steed or Long arm of the Law to close some gaps? Most of our runes are for a niche build. which is fine and all but I’d like to be able to keep up with people in pvp and not be the snail. speed pots only do so much.
lol
don the dress
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You’ve seen those shockadin runes? Might unironically be better than Ret. They are even getting an entire set for themself. Shockforged Warplate.
So yeah, it’s dress’in time.
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Not sure what your complaint is, we get spell power scaling and mana regen in combat, plus shockadin for pvp trolling.
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First of all SP scaling for ret is almost useless. Our damage is physical from melee divine storm and crusader strike. We won’t get infinite mana because it competes with a rune that resets exorcism which we need for the smallest amount of dps gain and because it’s one of 2 abilities that actually “scale” with spell power. These runes are a joke for ret compared to other classes runes.
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Heeeeeu, Avenger shield? HoJ?
Of course they do, because why not as the favourite child.
Meanwhile hunters do not even get ONE set for any of their specs for themselves.
The paladin runes are horrible its all about exorcism a trash noodle dmg spell that costs a stupid amount of mana.
SP scaling effects your seals damage, your judgement, your exorcism, consecration, holy wrath, and hammer of wrath, just because it does not effect white swings, crusader strike, or divine storm does not mean it is useless. Also, you will 100% take the mana rune over the exorcism cd reset rune, since being able to spam judgement and swap between seals to your hearts content will result in more damage output than casting exorcism more often and running out of mana faster…
Sacred Shield and Sheath of Light are honestly going to make Ret super tanky in PvP. Like potentially Blood Death Knight levels of tanky. Flash of Light is gonna be busted in Phase 2
Paladin needs more raw damage, i cant believe avenging wrath isn’t there. we don’t need 5 exorcism supporting runes. I would love to actually be able to pick horn of lordaeron.
If you fight 1v1 yeah it can be good except vs priest or shaman.
Not sure if it’ll be good against pvp group.
It’s just me but… I don’t want AW.
Being mr skyrocket for X sec every Y minutes and rest of the times mr wetnoodle is meh.
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classic fights are so fast that it will make a huge difference.
hunters asking for more is like the CEO of microsoft asking for a bonus
all ret needed was mana sustain in pve and more damage and extra survivability in pvp and thats what they got, still not S tier but not sky is falling like the doomers here who dont even have a ret are making out, for all the utility it brings middle of the raid is where it should be in pve dps, just nerf warriors already and make them the tanking only class they are suppose to be
It’s not just you. Part of what I despised about retail while playing between Legion and Shadowlands was differentiating specs by either having frequent “burst” windows that had hardly any burst to it - making them absolutely useless in PvP and crap-tier on certain PvE encounters - or having less frequent burst windows that were so impactful they made up for 70-75% of your overall damage - making PvE encounters feel like garbage outside your burst window and PvP relying on dropping everything into a 2/3 min CD and just turtling until the CD is back up if your enemies aren’t dead by then.
Asking to get raid / pvp items to be correctly itemized for your class is asking for a bonus? Riiiight.
And yet I still don’t want that kind of gameplay.
Relying on big cd to deal decent damages is poor design and boring.
I want good sustain dps instead of big burst.
Im not sure if Ret Pally got the worst runes in P2 among all classes and specs but i would not be surprised if we do.
All 4 new rune slots are for the support of Exocism which has terrible damage and terrible scaling with spell power.
Essentially, everything these 4 new runes do can be done with one or at most two runes, but they instead use 4 slots to do that.
With the new runes, there will be 5 slots in total for paladin to support exocism when they can use four rune slot to do sth useful for Ret pallies.
Now if u dont pick exocist rune, u essentially will have no good rune to use for sone rune slot. This is just terrible design…
This is so true. The exorcism and holy wrath is so minor. Now they have five runes slots catered to exorcism.
If thats not laughable, i dont know what is. I mean do they even take a brief look at their work before they call it a day?
It’s 100% better to go Holy than Ret as a DPS at least in PvP if all those runes are real and nothing else is added or changed later on.
The Art of War + Infusion of Light or Sheath of Light looks crazy good for Shockadin paired with CS + DS. Your healing will also be just as good as a healer or little worse I guess as you will miss out on sacred shield.