with the current state of DPS that ret pallies can do its insane that they’re allowed to do anything besides heal while bubble’d could care less about it being a 5 min CD, So is vanish but it doesnt prevent me from taking damage and or wipe dots of me
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Pro tip sprint away when he bubbles and get a re stealth.
this is not pertaining to just WPvP but in BGs like AB, I should have stated that but when it comes down to capping they legit are broken af but it could also translate to WPVP when they can also cast stuns ontop of their 12 sec invul state
Same thing applies, get bubble and then leave and come back when its on CD for a free ninja.
ya wish mages would move and cast spells while in ice block
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It’s a spell with 5 min cool down. It is strong but far from being OP.
And Paladin’s damage, even in BGs and PVP situation, is far from being the top damage dealer rn. There are just so many classes that does more damage than RET at the moment, either in terms of single/multiple target burst and consistent dps.
Rogues’ insane damage can stun kill most of the classes right now if not trinketed. And with subtlety talents, Rogue is also able to reset most of the fights multiple times that, for some classes, a well played Rogue is literally unbeatable.
Maybe Blizz should gut the Preparation talent and Blind to give other classes more chances at PVP.
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there’s a reason why stuff like mass-dispel and bubble as a whole being basically completely reworked like in retail became a thing. but i highly doubt theyll do anything about it on SoD (as they shouldn’t) even tho i don’t like bubble at all.
im just hoping for md in p4
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Blind can be dispelled/ trinketed ontop of that in BG situations if you are solo rushing a point with covering yourself or having a trinket you should know what to do expect im not gonna argue on the damage from rogues Muti spam is insane but thats literally our only way to compete with the paladin tankiness or casters DPS as soon as they get away or CC us but a paladin in AB or most PvP situations is a 12 sec immune bubble is jokes if you’re trying to compare rogue damage to that rogues only gap extender is a 5 min 60% move speed and rets have innate move speed with that spec
Sounds like someone is mad they cant sap for 45 seconds and free cap against a paladin.
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If ur point is that in a specific situation, Rogues do not do as well against any or just Paladin in particular, then that’s tru for almost all classes as no classes succeed in all situations.
In an average Arathi BG, a spell with 5 mins cooldown means u do not often use it because when it is not on cooldown; a good player has to judge the situation on whether it is worth using it and very often it is not. In situation where one should use the spell, it is also very often on cooldown. So ur issue with the bubble do not actually happen as often as u might think. Or it happens because it is the only way that a RET can save itself from a Rogue in a high-stake situation as I often pop bubble because of Rogue cuz if i dont, i get deleted by Rogue almost instantly.
In many one-on-one situation, a good Rogue can beat Paladin easily. In flag capture, a Rogue can also sap a Paladin and capture the flag. And more importantly, a rogue can Blind, vanish and use bunch of the trick to restart the fight against a Paladin and it is very hard for a Paladin to counter play it because it has no dot.
Where exactly is the damage reduction when they pop bubble?
yeah
i think we should normalise things where vanish gives you 100% avoidance to physical and magic attacks and also lets you throw out 3k crits from 20 yards away and cleanse and entire teams worth of dots and debuffs off your allies
that sounds balanced
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complains about bubble, but all throughout classic rogues can stun you for ur whole hp bar. kek
i guess players are just upset paladins are a threat now 
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yeah why not, because priests need even more right now with 2 dots dispersion killing you
oomf bubble kinda the foundation of pally. i think its a skill issue. 
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Every class has something considered “OP”. Every thread is “X ability/X class is OP! Needs to be nerfed!” Followed by those classes in the comments explaining why it’s not OP, or how they get dunked on anyway. Every class can do something busted, welcome to classic.
3k crits lmao. This dude has no idea what he’s talking about.
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i facetanked someone that was immune to me and died
nerf them until that cant happen anymore
look i even lied about how hard they hit me you better nerf them
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