Having 3 different specs and being in the lowest tiers for all of them in PvE…not exactly an enjoyable gaming experience. That along with no one wanting a pally in their PvP group and you’ve got a supremely terrible class. Can we show some love to at least one spec for PvE…and maybe add a slow to pursuit of justice or something to make them a viable PvP class? TIA Blizz!
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Agreed it’s so sad
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For real the state of paladins at the moment is ridiculous they are so terrible in dps healing and tanking.
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Ah, I see asking for paladin nerfs was effective. Sweet.
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They weren’t really nerfs as much as there isn’t much to fix what’s missing in each spec:
Ret has no oomph in it’s damage or a good cd option. A lot of decent runes fight for space. No real mobility.
Holy has no effective AOE heal and no Cleanse yet. Having unlimited mana doesn’t mean much when people are being chunked for big AOE damage.
Prot is probably in the best spot of the three and that’s not saying a whole lot. Lack of damage reduction built into the spec/class, no “on demand” defensive cooldown, and lack of mobility.
A lot of the runes compete oddly with each other. You’re either giving up utility, damage, or a situational ability for one of the other two.
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i see you’re trying to take blacksmith it’d be a shame if i bubbled and was able to keep anyone from interacting with the flag while the rest of my team gets here to stop you while you can do nothing about it
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Paladins have powerful buffs in a version of the game where raids only go up to 10 man.
A mounted paladin killed me at 34, 37, and then lvl 39 so, you must pay for the consequences of his actions.
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Paladins definitely need some buffs and some tricks added to their rune selection.
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Oh I see. So you’re saying I should keep asking for Paladin nerfs?
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Hello fellow wild growth’er. I see you are not playing paladin. How could you say such mean things about us!!
Haven’t tried holy at all yet, but I have played a lot of ret/prot this phase.
Ret has atrocious mana issues with Art of War, even with the mana cost reduction on exorcism, I feel like I constantly have to skip abilities every now and then just to try and keep my mana up with CS, or lose a ton of DPS by using SoW. (33 mana lol) The only way to play ret for me and for it to feel good is to use Guarded by the Light, which I know is fine but it’s just kinda aggravating that I can’t use my DPS runes.
I have absolutely 0 threat issues for prot, even in large AoE pulls, but I take so much damage constantly, tbf i’m running 11/20 so maybe I should respec, but I feel like consecration is a large part of what’s attractive about prot pallies, especially with the SP increase from Sheath of Light. I’d really like to have a def CD like Ardent Defender or something similar, which may be too much or whatever, however with all the wild stuff everyone can do, I feel like tanks should definitely have plenty of utility to keep up.
As far as PvP goes, I have no issues there, everyone has and should have hard counters so idrc about priests/druids or whatever
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The anger of someone who never learned to kite, mana drain, or interrupt a paladin. Never ceases to amaze me.
The class is lagging behind as a whole. I don’t think we should be brought up to P1 status (for ret), but I would still like to be competitive with other tanks. I think our DPS could use runes that aren’t so heavily in competition with each other. Holy just needs something. All the runes this phase outside of Sacred Shield are essentially Shockadin runes. Which I love the idea of shockadin being viable, but why not have a rune that really helps holy do something?
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Big talk from someone hiding in their immunity bubble.
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I just want to clarify for everyone that I had NOTHING to do with this post. Looks like my Paladin bros are finally standing up for themselves without me :’) I’m gonna cry
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*once every 5 minutes.
Ftfy
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Yeah, especially now that we can’t remove Guarded By The Light which nerfs our healing by 50% so we can’t even heal ourselves in it to full by the time it’s worn out.
People act like the immune bubble is undefeatable. Just walk away and bandage or heal yourself or get back into set up. If you’re swinging at a paladin bubbling, you’re absolutely not a good PVPer.
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wtf r u talking about maby learn your class… im having no problems as ret on dps
This game is in a better state when rets are near the bottom. Good work devs.
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Yeah, if a paladin bubbles to heal, then its literally a double reset, and you both start again
Rogues will restealth, healers will heal, hunters will get range, it’s really only warriors that can’t really do anything other than bandage. And I guess warlocks too, but they can get range, same as the hunters