I am doing fine for aggro for the most part. However, I am finding that if I Consecrate then unleash seals during fights on rotation, then I am out of mana fairly quickly. Needing to drink in between every fight is rough.
Now that I am L38, I can use an Ardent Custodian that I was gifted. My question is, is +22 intellect enchant generally viable. It really seems like my options are limited to get past this mana problem. I am speccing into Benediction, looking at Divine Intellect but 10% of that stat when I haven’t prioritized Intellect as a stat seems like a problem. Also using Blessing of Wisdom a lot instead of Kings.
Judge Wis, Seal Wis, Ret Aura, Shield Spike, max rank Cons on CD. Fastest 1h you can use with desirable stats. Your weapon exists as a stat stick you use to get as much mana back from Seal/Judge of Wis as possible to keep throwing out max rank Cons and later keep up Holy Shield as you can. Once you have enough mana that you arent going hard OOM on a fight, sub in Sanctuary in place of BoWisdom for the increased threat and survivability.
As a Protadin you need to accept that any fight with a threat drop you arent going to be able to tank unless your DPS can kill before they use the threat drop. The lack of a taunt is a fatal flaw that theres no realistic way to overcome.
You will drink a lot as a paladin tank. Thats just the way it is. Switching your seals and judging often makes this problem worse.
As far as enchants go, intellect would be nice but i dont focus too much into it tbh. Fact, i dont think about enchants until 60ish. Fiery blaze is nice though, last time i had it on flurry axe, this time on ravager.
Benediction is a must have in almost every build that i know. Divine intellect is wise if youre going deep prot because strength shouldnt be your highest prio if you’re focusing on cons. You can get away without it eventually, but its super nice to have when you get gear with a lot of int.
I think a good rule of thumb for mana management would be to use only enough as necessary. When you have threat established, you can just chill and use seal of wisdom, maybe pump out a lower rank od consecration. If somebody starts to catch up, use righteousness.
You want to eventually get out of the habit of blowing your mana too early. At 60, there are a ton of mobs and bosses that flat out drop aggro. You’re saving you mana for when that happens and pray it only happens once.
Starting fights against bosses you can either judge crusader or wisdom and switch to righteousness. But if your dps jumps the gun too early they can pull aggro and make it hard to get back.
Lastly, consider consumables. Even cheap mana pots (like greater mana potion) can give you an extra consecration or two and mana left over to switch to wisdom. You should go engineering if you’re serious about tanking because bombs help a lot for AoE threat. If not, look up crystal charges from un’goro. In an aoe pull, i generally bomb, consecrate, and sit in seal of wisdom just focusing on consecration unless i start to lose threat on a given mob.
Sagefish delight is a great food buff that restores 8 mp5, though it only lasts 15 minutes. I think there’s a potion or elixir for mp5 you can stack as well. It should alleviate some of the issues, though it’s best if you make them yourself since prices are outlandish these days.
What he’s saying is 100% just the way it is, and when you’re not taking much damage run Blessing of Wisdom also, but when you have tons of mobs on your Blessing of Sancturary.
Also don’t use Holy shield unless you’re taking lots of damage… Resist the urge to use it, because it will eat your mana.
As for enchants, Agi is really nice, Stamina is really nice, and that’s really about it.
good luck finding anyone who’s got that since the rep to get that is sorta wild, I don’t even have that crap on my enchanter who’s got most of the AQ 40 stuff and +30spell power etc…
As for weapon enchant…
Fire Weapon / +30 Spell power are both really good, but the Fire weapon is a lot more practical in cost. Life stealing is also practical. Crusader while nice, just does not proc enough and really does not a lot for you.
Also grab some mana oil off the AH or craft it if you can. This is massive improvement over stock.
ditch holy shield, bring nades, save your judges for emergency threat pulls once the boss has been pulled, have a macro setup to swap your 2h with your 1h+shield.
Use crusader on your main threat gen 2h weapon. Use sp on your 1h (preferably a fast one). Some bosses need consistent threat gen from the 1h and some are good to get spike threat from the 2h.
The other major threat tricks for prot paladin is have a BOP macro setup with the highest target dummy you can use. This is your “AOE” threat spell, but only works against physical dmg bosses or mobs.
One more trick, imp LoH with imp RF basically is 1:1 on threat (its a little under 1:1 but its very close). If you have a macro that casts it on yourself, it will give you a VERY high threat jump. Useful for bosses with threat drops (like Heigan in nax when you are teleported instead of a dps/healer or dps race bosses like patchwork). But it will only work when you have very low health.
kings/might/wis spam is still useful at lower levels. But you just weave it in between autos against single target mobs on yourself. I use wis because its cheaper than kings at lower levels, and you need wis on you at all times anyway.
Bring mana pots, and bring a druid for innervates. judge of wisdom should be your first GCD on a boss.
Your stats prio is as follows from highest to lowest: armor, parry/dodge, stam, hit, agi, crit, str, int. If you are a dwarf paladin, make sure you have 9% hit, you can use edgemasters with a flurry axe too, but its prob too expensive.
Use seal of righteousness to focus on mobs with less threat, trying to use as much of the 30 seconds as possible. Judge on loose adds or targets you need threat on
Wisdom adds no threat so I’d use righteousness as much as possible and you can use less conc.
31/13/7 ain’t bad for tanking with holy shock for snap aggro
holy shock tank is very good too. Good threat gen, snap threat on a range. You build up the armor with that build too. But you need 14 points in prot to get kings/imp rf. 1pt in imp judges is still good with that setup.
Good for dungeons, in raids you need ZG hit trinket in order to do the more challenging stuff (aq40/nax) since you will hardly get spell hit.
I love threads like this. It’s like all the new players are on a treasure hunt to learn why their non-meta class/spec is bad instead of just reading discord.
Yes, prot paladins don’t have enough mana. That’s one reason of many they don’t tank in classic.
he’s just mad in classic a good raid lead will replace his rogue with another war and it gets worse in TBC when he’s forced to sit in arena all day
