This is currently a major issue, and I think combining Art of War and Guided by the light into one rune would be the first step in attempting to fix the class however our damage would still be sub pard and none of our cc issues fixed.
Really I think all of rets spells need spell damage scaling implemented and a stacking holy dot added e.g deepwounds as you mentioned, furthermore if those 2 runes were combined we would still need a new rune which did something like Blessing of Freedom now removes all CC effects and increases movement speed by 40% for its duration, just to put us on par with other classes all of which have massive mobility, I mean hell even warlock has a charge at the moment! Its actually just sad.
They just changed AoW so it reduces the mana cost of Exo and HS by 80%. This lets us run it for a good bit more damage in PvP and Iām sure the PvE increase is also pretty good. After doing a few lvl 40-42 quests and AB Iām more happy with Ret now.
Nothing needs a nerf. Just accept whatever class has the highest damage output and be done with it. Spell crafting and working with specs and spells to do what works for you is part of classic. Let us have time to play around with things before changes occur. The meta might not even have been developed yet.
Iād slightly change that to āwe donāt need to be sky crying for nerfs on other classesā.
Constructive suggestions on how to uplift your own class would be more welcome. Not really directing that at you specifically, Infini, but may just be something we could all try here.
Myself included. bites tongue and makes a pouty face instead of being snarky to pinkies
Me? You talking about me? I legitimately donāt know who heās supposed to be. Should I know who he is? The way yāall talk you make it seem like I should.
He just shows up in a bunch of paladin threads saying stuff like āpaladin was OP in classic, now with all your extra abilities, you should be thankful.
Also heres the same video i always post of me in bgs during tbc prepatch one shotting people in my aq nax gearā
Hang around long enough and youll see the pattern emerge
The class is pretty bad in Classic. I just say you can make it work. And the class does have the capability to oneshot top geared players in the deep ret spec in classic. without any strike. Is it proc dependant? Sure, but it happens alot.
And because ive experienced that, and because ive seen in the TBC prepatch what the class can then do with a strike (absolutely oneshot top geared people consistently), im saying the SOD paladin is going to be pretty ridiculously broken on level 60.
So therefor you jesters shouldnt be complaining about it now. The amount of stuff youve been given in SOD already is ridiculous. Complaining about mana issues during leveling phase has to be some joke. The class already had mana issues without any use abilities. This too is gonna even out with mana pools of level 60 gear. You could and should have foreseen this.
Thats all im saying. Tira you can apologize for being intentionally dishonest now you filthy liar.
All you do is rave on about one shots and post the video of nuking fresh geared players with 2k hp, its an embarrassment.
None of your combos (which include tbc talents and tbc crusader strike by the way) did enough damage to one shot a 4.5k hp player, the fact that you even needed to HoW some of the fresh 60s to finish them is even more of a testament to my point that the only people you are one shotting are people with 0 gear
Meanwhile casters are critting for the same damage as your full tbc prepatch combo right now at level 40
Give us our 4 second crusader strike back, it was always 4 seconds and they only changed it cause a bunch of dumb streamers said that it was gonna be too overpowered.
