Paladin Runes - Beyond Terrible (Ret Confirmed Worst Spec in the Entire Game)

WoW Classic Season of Discovery
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Everyone tried to make it beyond clear how terrible paladin runes were for this phase, how little they did for the class whatsoever in any way.

Well the logs are now out.
sod(dot)warcraftlogs(dot)com/zone/statistics/2008#dataset=99

Retribution Paladin has been shown to be the worst spec in the entire game, mainly due to a ridiculous notion by the devs to force a shockadin spec which is in no way functional and isnt supported by any of the talent trees. While offering not one rune which offered a modicum of power close to what any of the other classes received.

Retritubion is a sad joke D or E tier now… scratch that lets be realistic its an F.

All while hunter is currently parsing yet again as #1 this time as a melee hunter and 20% above its closest competitor…

And priests are aboslutely obliterating anyone they see with 1 button. critting for 1-2k in greens.

What dev actually thought up the following:

  • Incentivise shockadin build through a rune which resets exorcism and holy shock on melee crits, make it share the same slot as the rune which gives you mana, meaning you go oom if you pick it.

  • Create a rune which grants spell damage based on strength, make ALL of the the primary damaging runes e.g Seal of the Matyrdom, Divine Storm and Crusader Strike NOT scale with spell damage…

Its pretty clear why Retribution Paladin is the second worst spec in the game, there was no thought about synergy scaling or actual class design, all while you look at how broken melee hunter is and how syngergistically all the abilities tie in together.

They need to introduce spell damage scaling to all of paladins melee abilties and make Sheath of Light do Holy Damage over time on physical crits similar to Deepwounds alongside its healing over time component. This wouldnt even fix the below mediocre dps the class produces but at least would be a step in the right direction.

The Key difference between Paladins and other classes at the moment is that while one of their specs might not be performing well, Literally every single class has a spec available to it which does MUCH more damage then a Ret Paladin.

And to add insult to injury, Paladin’s other specs currently suck as well… whereas every other class has at least one well performing spec in every role available to them… paladin has literally every single spec available to it performing like dog water.

Ret paladin being the class’s only dps spec available to paladins makes it numerically the class with the the lowest overall dps class in the entire game.

Seriously… what in the world was blizzard thinking with these joke paladin runes, maybe the Season of Discovery, was where we discovered the joke was Retribution Paladin after all and it truly is the meme spec it always was in classic.

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When you base an entire phase off week 1 dps in subpar dungeon gear.

Even if Ret is bottom, so? lmao we have other spec’s

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100% confirmed ret is dog tier trash.

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Fellow Ret here. We suck at the moment :frowning:
I think they focused too much on trying to make shockadins a thing this phase that they didn’t actually flesh out ret enough.

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Prot is alot of fun right now to me. But im going holy at 40. I find it strange the hybrids are complaining that they cant top dps charts to actual dps main specs

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So is druid and yet it’s 3rd highest dps lol (barely behind 2nd).
Priest is a healer and it’s 4th highest dps :wink:

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I find it strange the people who play the class with all 3 roles literally have full blown melt downs.

Besides prot is so good rn

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Ret will never be allowed to perform as the top DPS spec, due to it’s utility. Every time they’ve ever been buffed, people cry and complain until it’s nerfed into irrelevance 2 weeks after the buff

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Ret was fine in Classic.

You get strikes and all other kind of crazy abilities in SOD, and you still complain.

False Paladins all, you cannot be helped.

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I don’t care about being top DPS, I care about not being at the bottom lol.

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It’s a sad day to see melee hunter beating enhance as a dual wield storm striker. They probably do more 2h dps than ret too. Clown world.

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Don’t feed the troll. That war is just an impotent virgin who spends every day trolling the forums whining about Ret paladins despite them being one of the worst DPS. Dude has been getting rocked in PVP by Rets and is immortally upset about it. Lmao.

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Someone has to be at the bottom. Why not the class that has a ton of utility?

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not wrong, at the start of icc in classic wotlk someone fudged the sim numbers and made a 50,000 page thread on the forums with mostly people crying about rets being top dps before the patch even came out, for context, classic wotlk buffed rets by about 8-10% midway through the expansion and this caused a massive cryfest. In the end, ret wasn’t the top dps and the people mostly crying about them (warriors) ended up as number 1 without any custom classic wotlk buffs

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You scale with gear better than casters do. They have level scaled main abilities while the melee are still using leveling weapons and non prebis. The melee will catch up in no time.

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chuckles at the meltdown because “number important” mentality

Ya’ll been in too many corporate meetings, with ‘higher ups’ wanting to convince you that numbers are the end all, be all of everything.

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Actually these guys are the wagie drones that the higher ups ridicule, thats why they need to make themselves feel important by getting high numbers and logs in Classic WoW. A 20 year old game with no mechanics.

It all stems from a deep seated insecurity.

No normal person ever cared or will care about your logs or dps or what place your class takes in a tier list.

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Ah yes, another low-effort troll that hasn’t played since vanilla classic. You clearly haven’t been one-shot at 35 yards by a boomkin yet.

Happy to slurp up the slop that Bliz constantly feeds to paladins instead of sticking up for the class. I think you’re the “false paladin” :slight_smile:

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Give it some time, nobody has any real gear yet, so parses mean very little. Remember Ret started out at the top the in P1 and dropped to near the bottom by the end, however the fact that Ret might be at the bottom isn’t really important, the most important thing is the DPS spread between the top and the bottom. The problem in Classic was Ret did 1/4 the DPS warriors did. In P1, they were 15-20% lower DPS so actually viable.

Now its quite possible Ret will be near the bottom, but there will always be one class brining up the end, last phase it was enhance shaman, if its paladins this p2, it just means they will likely get buffed more in P3, also as long as their damage stays in a viable range they will be fine this phase.

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I just wanna seal twist man all these weird cringe playstyle aggrend wants to force on ret are just not it. Thinking it’s a quit sod angle

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