Hi, I’ve seen that idea that it didn’t exist in the original TBC floated around a few times. Is it correct that it only existed in the current beta and on private servers but never actually on live? I’ve been trying to Google proof of that but I can’t seem to find any
Seal twisting existed on live servers back in 2008, but it only worked with specific seals in specific directions.
The current implementation isn’t perfect, as it enables some twists that weren’t possible before, and invalidates some that worked, but it gets the most important of them (rotationally and utility wise) pretty much correct.
Seal twisting was never all seals in all directions, save for a month or so on a ptr and a very brief time of the beta. It has since been changed to what went onto the live classic realms Tuesday (from specific seals to any other, which is the closest approximation this method of recreating seal twisting can get to original behaviors).
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I see I see. Thanks for writing that out.
I feel like it’s a cool mechanic to keep even if it’s unintentional. No changes vs some changes attitudes I understand. I can’t understand the “wah why do they get this???” Crowd though lol
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If seal twisting wasnt intended it wouldve been removed? Blizz did plenty of balancing back in TBC.
Just let it go both ways, makes little sense to add a weird constraint.
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I mentioned before that shaman got hit in a couple of patch fixes for “unintended use/interaction” items for WF, except those actually WERE in the game during TBC and got patched out. This falls into the same category. This isn’t a “wah, why do they get this”. They didn’t get it. It got bug fixed in beta, so it was never “in the game”. So this entire topic is a “wah, we want this!”.
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Incorrect. They as far as has been confirmed by blue, they tried to fix a coding issue with blood and wound up breaking twisting (new stuff that didn’t exist, breaking old stuff that did exist). And twice they’ve said they’re going to add delay to seals and they like it. Yes it’s a want - we want what they said they are trying to do because it’s dope! Did you even read the two quotes I linked above? Clearly not :3
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It’s exactly what i said it was. It was in original WoW, it wasn’t intended (it wasn’t bug fixed ), but it was there so they are making it work as it did originally. Twisting BOTH WAYS wasn’t there, so they patched that on beta. You still get the twisting that was originally there, but they bug fixed out the “improved” version that you want because it was a bug.
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Not true. Two way twisting still exists for some seals that never existed. Clearly you’re speculating versus going on the iterative timeline of events and blue announcements.
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So they need to either remove all two way twisting or add it back for SoB <->SoC right?
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If you get two way twisting on some seals and it makes it into live, then its a gift from blizzard because that isn’t how it worked.
That’s the ticket!!!
See, this right here is what I was talking about earlier. If you (Paladins) get your way on this, you can guarantee every other class is going to start screaming for a change that improves their DPS.
Again, your twisting has gotten a special change to allow it to function just as it was in TBC, be happy with that. No other class has gotten this kind of special attention, you keep pressing this and it will get ugly.
That’s how it is right now, and they’ve said they’re adding it too all seals until proven otherwise. I don’t want a sor gift. WE WANT A SOB GIFT LETS GOOOO
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If they want to kept classes as they were, it would be the former. Because that is a class change that actually impacts gameplay. And if they do, then you are going to see a cascade of topics asking for class changes under the #somechanges.
It was the back bone of the class and made it through all the way to wotlk. If they keep it as it were, they’d leave twisting in exactly the same way. But they didn’t. It’s not like that now even. Don’t you see they’re obviously going too enable dual twisting because they love us!!
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Druids using consumables in forms needs to be changed because #somechanges. Shaman WF patches should be reverted because its fun #somechanges. Hunter shouldn’t have to worry about weaving shots around auto shots #somechanges. lol
The use of it was literally called an “unintended use of game mechanics” along with all of the batching related things.
It was a small enough impact that it was left alone, and it also became widely known toward the end of the expansion. Stuff got further redesigned as WotLK hit. (If I recall correctly it was eventually removed in WotLK)
Had it been much more significant, it likely would have been adjusted in one way or another. Blizzard never would have expanded it to be both ways.
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Which is exactly why they should just put it in as full two directional
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That argument has no logic behind it.
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That initial blizzard post about saying they want to keep the twisting quirk implies that it should work for all seals. That’s where this is all stemming from. We wouldn’t need this thread if there was some clarification.
(Yes I’ve read the “this is as clear as it gets” takes. No, it isn’t. Saying one thing and doing another is not clear)
They asked us to let them know how seal twisting feels after the change. It’s normal to expect people to ask for it to work the way it did. Or at least figure out if how it is now is the way it’s supposed to be going forward.
Yeah and I mean people can make threads saying whatever they want. I’m not worried about that. The game has never truly been fair to everyone and that’s just WoW.
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