not a bug, that’s how it was in TBC vanilla
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Translation: Working exactly like it worked in TBC.
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in its current implementation, its a bug. it does not function the way they described in their patch notes.
now if blizz wants to stick their head in and say “hey folks, its working as intended now” we could have a different discussion, but it currently does not work the way they told us it would work in patch notes.
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not a bug, that’s how it was in TBC vanilla
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not really interested in other people saying its a bug, just blizz. the fact of the matter is it doesnt work the way they say it does in the patch notes. Until i see a blue post on it, i consider it a bug
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You misconstrued it, too bad. Stop acting like a toddler in a toy store.
That’s how it was in TBC vanilla.
case closed
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oh, case closed. minigun says so.
i guess you were in the forums with all the people asking for drums to be changed telling them “nuh uh thats not how it was in tbc. case closed”
fact of the matter is you really just dont know what blizz is thinking and youre just desperately trying to seem relevant. anyways, your posts dont really add anything of value here. later
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neither do yours really. You’ve singled out this one particular thing that doesn’t work exactly like the wording says. I get it you want a buff (to both your rotation and your dps), but if they give it to you, they need to give it to the rest of the underperforming classes. That why it’s not going to happen. Blizzard had a goal in mind, and stated fairly clearly that they wanted to keep seal twisting as it was, which is what they’ve done. One person somewhere made a note that was a bit ambigous (like that’s never happened before) and now your all acting like you deserve special treatment (beyond what you’ve already gotten). Suck it up buttercup.
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How about you guys stop being rude and name calling? As much as I support this post it would have been inactive by now if you weren’t on here being confrontational. If you must be confrontational do it tactfully at the very least.
We are showing our support for this subject. If you don’t agree with it, just state your points of opposition and be done with it. If you want to argue about people being crybabies, go make a post about it. Petition Blizzard to remove the crybabies.
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no, it wouldn’t… Like 3 people have it bookmarked, and bump the post 2-3x a day. You guys never add anything to the discussion either. You’re just trying to get the post on the front page again. Then you pretend to be insulted and spam report everyone.
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It’s a leftover relic that the devs never intended. The only reason we are having this discussion is because rets complain about dps every single expansion. There literally isn’t one expansion that goes by that rets aren’t creating huge threads about.
It doesn’t function the way you interpret the patch notes. Its working exactly like it worked in TBC.
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Interpretation isn’t required. Their exact words were “Paladin Seals.” There’s no qualifier such as “some” or “most” or “specific,” so on. “Paladin seals will now persist on the Paladin for a very short time after they’re replaced by a different seal, so that “seal twisting” remains possible.” Word for word. There’s really no room for interpreting this. So as I said either, they have either broken their word or it is currently bugged.
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It is if you look at “we want to recreate how it worked in TBC”. They didn’t say they were adding in dual twisting that can use all seals. They said they were adding in a “the twisting quirk that was in TBC”. As someone said, context matters. Seals to me, means the seals that were used to twist in TBC to make it faithful to how it worked, which means not all seals. Which is why it was “fixed”. It’s not a bug for them not to work, it was a bug that allowed them to work.
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See, and I MILDLY, qualified, agree with this. I agree that Seal of Command was bugged on PTR allowing Rank twisting, which certainly wasn’t intended. However, by all appearances, in fixing that particular bug they also broke their intent for Seal Twisting. It would make the most sense given their WORDS vs combining different posts and different sources.
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There is where the two sides disagree. The “for” dual twisting think dual twisting was intended based on it working for a short time and the dev notes saying “seals”.
The opposing point of view says that it was never intended and that blizzard was going to make it faithful to how the “quirk” worked in TBC using those seals that made it work at that time. They think dual twisting was patched out on purpose and it’s not a bug that it’s working as intended.
Which is why it is all up to interpretation of how you read the dev notes.
So there’s actually another layer as to why we think it’s a bug. It’s all about the timeline of their implementation. The wording originally was consistent with their implementation ie dual twisting was on all seals for a little over a month. The big question comes into play right when it ended because it coincided exactly when they also released a hot fix which was for the coded back end of how soblood worked. Speculation was that it was triggering as a wrong damage type or something to do with the avoidance tables. It was immediately following this patch where dual twisting went off the beta. Considering that, and their (limited) explanation which they’ve provided twice, it could very well be a bug. Also, not for nothing, seal of Justice twisting is now dead and that’s not TBC accurate. And dual twisting for SoR isn’t tbc accurate either. Due to all these discrepancies, and the history of it working prior to a hotfix which broke two other twist mechanics, this could be a bug.
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Even the word “seals” doesn’t necessarily translate to “all.”
Sentences like “People are annoying” don’t always refer to ALL people.
Is it a badly worded patch note given the functionality that went live? Absolutely!
Does the word “seals” mean it has to be all? No, just more than one.
It’s not dead. It works fine when twisting from command.
You can also still judge Command into SoJ in a macro and get a ranged stun off of it.
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Oh are you sure?? I’d love to hear a confirm on that because that seriously hurt, I heard esfand say that was dead.
Points witholding still stand, timing coincidence and SoR dual-twist are still suspect of unintended results
Please give us 2 way twisting. It makes way more sense with the rotation and already proposed changes. We have suffered a long and hard 1.5 years of classic to not get the necessary buffs needed to be viable in TBC classic.
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