This ability needs some tuning. Why is it that Paladins have a 10 second immunity that doesn’t restrict the actions they can perform in any way? You shouldn’t be able to be immune to all dmg/cc and still receive heals and cast/attack in any way you want. No other class in the game has a utility/survival cooldown this overtly overpowered. I realize Paladin bubble has been a staple ability since vanilla, but it’s time for a change to bring them more in line with everyone else.
On the flip side, DH have an immunity, but you have to spec into it and you can’t attack or use any abilities while in it.
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Yeah that’s why it’s considered a wheelchair class.
“Got outplayed in a fight? Bubble.”
“Got outplayed again? Full health instant cast heal.”
“Oh wait got outplayed a third time? Here’s a second bubble.”
If you removed or nerfed bubble/full HP mechanics, almost every paladin would quit the game because without those two things they also know how terribly designed and balanced their class is.
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It’s fine. Bubble isn’t what is wrong with paladins right now. Barking up the wrong tree
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Don’t worry, I’m sure they will remove MD from priests and give it to DH’s at some point just like mana burn.
8 seconds, but yeah, the absence of any kind of offensive debuff on SL bubble is weird to me.
Honestly, it’s surprising to me just how little Divine Shield has changed since like TBC. It feels bad to play against, it doesn’t feel that great to play with, and it’s a huge limitation on class design because if we have something cool AND bubble then we could easily just be OP.
No, “wheelchair” is a reference to paladin mobility, which is the worst among melee classes. It has nothing to do with bubble.
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bubble is fine, still doing omega damage while inside of it is kinda questionable but nbd.
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That’s where I stand. I’m fine with them having bubble, but they shouldn’t have access to their entire arsenal of spells/attacks while it’s up. No other class has anything even remotely resembling this.
Didn’t they use to have damage reduction inside the bubble? Dealt less damage.
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Back in the day, when paladins used bubble they did less dmg.
and back in the day they didn’t
Yes, bubbling used to reduce your damage dealt by half. Before that (IIRC this was classic/TBC era?) it reduced autoattack speed by half, which may sound trivial but at the time was not, since most of Ret’s damage came from autoattacks and seals. Dealing full damage while invulnerable is definitely strange.
I think it could be used for the IQ it takes to play one as well considering it’s basically like playing the game on safe mode.
No other class has buttons that can instantly heal them to full, while giving them a fat dps boost while also doing all of this in a bubble that no one can touch but a warrior whose probably stunned somewhere. Also if you run, they can mount mid combat and chase you down WHILE bubbled 
If you can’t see how this isn’t a good, smart or fun kit to play against then you’re most likely the one playing it because no one else will white knight for pally not being nerfed.
It’s always bothered me that the class is basically full heal yourself over and over and over between DPS cooldowns, then bubble/freedom/bop+Steed->run at the enemy and try to one shot them. Rinse and repeat.
Like what kind of gameplay loop is that. It gives me heartburn regardless of how strong it is.
What do wheelchairs have to do with IQ? What do you think a wheelchair is?
I’m not sure how you got any of that out of my post. The sentence right above that specifically said that bubble isn’t fun to play against; it always has been problematic for balance, but especially is now when you can deal full damage during bubble.
That said, you appear to think that Paladins can use Lay Hands in arena, that we can use it during bubble, that Divine Steed is a strong gap closer, and evidently you don’t know what Mass Dispel does. So if you are having trouble with Ret specifically, some more game knowledge would probably help.
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If you have to ask this question then it probably applies to you.
I never once said Arena or BG, which is just you coming to your own random conclusion to try and flex game knowledge while maining a wheelchair class.
Regardless of our disagreements, we can both agree that Paladins are problematic and their kit is anti-fun to play against so let’s leave it at that.
Wow bro, it sounds like you have some pretty toxic assumptions about disabilities.
This is the arena subforum.
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Wheelchair has nothing to do with disabilities, some people like to just sit in them and watch the wheels go brrr
In the PvP general forum, where anyone can post regardless of arena or not.
bubble is op as hell right now. Dont even forget their other spells lay on hands, shield of vengeance, word of glory, eye for an eye. doesnt even matter if their mobility sucks they never die and they can literally 2 shot you.
Today I got hit for 28k from their Avenging shield or whatever its called