I didn’t see this before so I’m late about this topic.
So now “Pack Leader” will summon a bear, a wyvern or a boar but can you let us summon our pets and not some random pets mostly when these pets are so generic… It’s pretty annoying to get these three pets for “Pack Leader” when we could get our pets and the pets we have in our stable.
I choose specific pets for every of my hunters and I would like to see them more often. I don’t really care about a bear, a wyvern and a boar mostly when I never chose these pets for all my hunters. I’m pretty sure we have BM hunters who care about the pet models they can use.
You should let us choose what pets from our stable or the ones we have with us we want to see and not “impose us” these three generic pets. We could choose what of our pets we want to put for the bear slot, the wyvern slot and the boar slot. This choice could be made with a stable master. It could work like the “Animal Companion” talent with the stable but with three other slots in the stable. Of course, these three slots would be locked if we don’t have “Howl of the Pack Leader” ability.
We could keep the same base for the pets we could put for each of these slots to keep the same effect coming from “Howl of the Pack Leader”:
- Bear slot: A “pet” leaps into the fray, rending the flesh of your enemies, dealing xxxx damage over 10 sec to up to 8 nearby enemies.
- Wyvern slot: A “pet” descends from the skies, letting out a battle cry that increases the damage of you and your pets by 10% for 15 sec.
- Boar slot: A “pet” charges through your target 3 times, dealing xxxx physical damage to the primary target and xxxx damage to up to 8 nearby enemies.
So we could choose one of our pets for each slot in a specific pet family like here:
- Bear slot would use the pet we chose between these pet families: bear + cat + feathermane + scalehide
- Wyvern slot would use the pet we chose between these pet families: bat + bird or prey + carrion bird + chimaera + dragonhawk + feathermane + moth + pterrordaxe + ray + wasp + wind serpent
- Boar slot would the pet we chose between these pet families: blood beast + boar + clefthoove + direhorn + gruffhorn + mammoth + oxen + riverbeast + scalehide + stag
As a BM hunter, it’s really satisfying to see more often the other pets we choose for our hunters. Pack Leader should give us this opportunity/option and not force us to use these three generic pets.
I really hope you would consider this possibility for “Pack Leader” because it’s far better than only these three generic pets for everyone.
And as we say it: The more choices we have the better it is. 
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I honestly don’t know why they changed it to be this way. It was OUR pets before.
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although this is much more customizable and flavorful, it overcomplicates a feature which is definitely more involved than you’d expect when the new spec already has alot of bugs to iron out.
Hope the devs don’t leave it like this too, maybe we can get a glyph of stables down the road.
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Seriously, please, It was bad enough that they had already locked one of the final tier talents behind Dire Beast stuff despite them being unrelated, but this pretty much kills the spec for me until further notice.
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I’m not a fan of all these random animals we summon now. I deliberately avoid any talent, like Huntmaster’s Call, that summons pets I didn’t tame. As much as I love playing as a Pack Leader, I’m switching to Dark Ranger and hoping Howl of the Pack Leader becomes customizable with a glyph somewhere down the road.
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TBH I was just getting ready to switch to Dark Ranger before realising that it gives you the option to opt out of Shadow Hounds, shortly before shoehorning you into Murder of Crows.
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As many of us were telling them for months on the ptr - hunters already have their own packs to lead! We don’t need to borrow Rexxar’s! But unfortunately they didn’t listen. Now we don’t have any hero trees that let our characters be themselves. Now we’re cosplaying as either Sylvanas, Tyrande or Rexxar.
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I really hope the Developers see this because this was a bad change on their part. We can already cosplay as Sylvanas, Tyrande or Rexxar with Mogs and Pets at our choosing. Forcing three generic pets on us is a slap in the face to our individuality as Hunters. We don’t want to play YOUR way, we want to play OUR way, like Magnarok said!
Here’s my proposition for a change to the first Hero Talent Node: give the Hunter a unique Buff specific to the Beast Type they chose. Example:
Cunning Beasts: Camouflage no longer has a cooldown OR you and your pets attacks now apply a stacking bleed that stacks up to 5x for 50% of your damage.
Ferocity Beasts: You can now have a 3rd and 4th Stable Pet summoned OR your chance to summon a Dire Beast is increased by 10%.
Tenacity Beasts: Terrorizing Aura which reduces damage taken by all players within 20 yards by 10% OR 10-15% increased HP Aura.
These are just spitballed ideas, but honestly, almost ANYTHING is better than what we have now.
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I’ve never tamed a pig in 18 years and over 50 hunter alts, i don’t know why the devs thought i’d be excited to borrow someone else’s.
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I totally agree with this! My hunter is a night elf Sentinel character and I have been playing Marksmanship with a pet for nearly a decade. I do not like the eagle abilities, so going Beastmaster, I was already disappointed to lose the Sentinel hero talents but now I find out today that I am shoehorned into being a Dark Ranger because Pack Leader has a bunch of funky animals! I do not want Murder of Crows, either. 
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