Just started playing outlaw, right now I main a Fury warrior and holy smokes outlaw has so many buttons. 2 buffs we have to manage (roll the bones and slice and dice) and multiple dps cooldowns aswell as stealth abilities and outside of stealth abilities.
Are there any talents I can take to make it easier to play haha?
Anything that’s not Rogue.
Rogue specs have become such a convoluted mess over the past few expansions. There’s no way I would recommend playing rogue to someone who isn’t already invested in the class.
outlaw has to follow a rotation to work and this rotation matters due to buffs like Greenskin’s Wicker and Fan the hammer for Crackshot builds and what not. It’s not a easy spec to play compared to the other 2 and being that rogue is a time invested class, doesn’t make it any better. Play at your own risk
Eh, I would still recommend rogue. Outlaw may be on suicide watch atm (rightfully so) and all hero trees are passive, no visuals, super meh. If you didnt play outlaw in s3/4 you wont have that feeling of the gameplay being taken away/fun detected. The crackshot kir outlaw loop is still the best dps gameplay loop in the game imo.
But the keybind requirements are real though, and its way worse on sub, the amount of off gcd abilities is insane. Combine that with focus kick/kidney and you’re in for a fun time (I even use a macro to only cheap in stealth and kidney outside to save a bind).
The only thing I can suggest would be to look over your binds and evaluate things like, are you using tilde as a bind? Tilde is my focus stun bind and I never see people use it. Consider trying alt binds, alt+123, q,e,r are my most comfortable by using the right side of my thumb and I see very few people deviate from ctrl/shift binds. Some may suggest an mmo mouse, but imo they aren’t necessary with proper binds as I have probably 60-70+ binds with mount/logout macros, hearth, opie frames, addon frames all bound without one.
You can bind ghostly into blade flurry or some other ability, but its generally a bad idea since you can easily randomly oom yourself because of its energy cost or simply put it on a target that dies in 5 seconds and waste it.
Anyway, here are my binds to give you an idea. h ttps://imgur.com/a/hgv1IGu
The bars are usually hidden so ignore the mess!
Keep in mind I use ESDF (another stellar way to discover new keybinds!) so shift everything over by 1 to translate. Also, anything with C3 or CW is actually Alt+3 or Alt+W, not control.
Side note, outlaw is “hard” and has a lot going on, but most of that popular sentiment stems from perma lusted/fast gcd requiring constant attention to your gameplay. Once u figure out rtb and kir niches then the rest is a really easy prio system.
Aside from learning the rotation, the key is efficiently organizing your bars and strategic hotkeys (don’t forget any extra mouse buttons). We may seem to have a lot, but we really don’t. For example, you can put seldom used utilities vertically on the right, such as applying poisons and hookshot. For the main bars, I put my generatos on the left of bar 1 and my spenders on the left of bar 2. Then, personal buffs go on to right of bar 2 and movement related things on the right of bar 1, such as sprint, concealment. Hotkeys are a personal thing. But the idea is to minimize hand movement and avoid stretching of fingers. You lose time doing that.
Hey man some of us really like a challenge haha
Although rogue’s issues go far beyond “being challenging”
From rogue to warrior is a tough transition, no doubt about it.
Fury especially is so nice and straight forward. Don’t expect it with rogue, the difficulty difference between Fury and Subtlety really can’t even begin to be explained.