Outlaw Rogue or Arms Warrior PvE + PvP?

So which is more easier to level to 60 and also alot of fun at end game and also strong in raiding and pvp wise and maybe low key M+ ??

Probably outlaw rogue for all of those except PvP. I think the rogue PvP spec is sub.

If you’re going arms warrior, just switch your weapon for a shovel and dig a hole.

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What you mean ?

Save them the trouble of burying you.

Outlaw outclasses Arms in all categories right now, and sadly (I love Arms) it’s not even close.

i vote outlaw but keep in mind there are moments that feel pretty damn bad on long pulls with more than 5 targets :slight_smile:

anyone petty can “accidently” pull additional mobs and make you look bad on details heh

on very big pulls a tank could outdamage you … the target cap is really a bummer.

Honestly, I love my arms warrior in PVP/PVE

So 100% Arms then ?

Aren’t warriors similarly capped?

Anyway, another vote for outlaw here. Still very strong in keys and pretty solid in raids. I don’t pvp but I heard it was the pvp spec as well :person_shrugging:

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Arms has dumptruck AoE with Kyrian, at least in PvP.

Sharpen Blade + Spear w/ Mikanikos soulbind/Unity + Warbreaker + Avatar + trinkets/Sweeping Strikes + Bladestorm w/ Unhinged.

It’s a lot to get off, but when you do it’s like watching someone get swallowed by an avalanche. If you’re lucky you might even get up to two additional Mortal Strikes out of your Bladestorm, all the while slapping everyone hit with around 8 seconds of fat healing reduction.
Rogues are probably better anyway, but that never mattered to me in the first place, so I say you do you.

They are very different from each other. I’ll say this rogue (outlaw) is strong now and looks strong in the next expac based on talents. I don’t know enough about warriors to judge them.

Fury warrior. Play that.

Seriously though, try fury.

I have fun with my outlaw rogue and it’s my second favorite class.

they were nice to a lot of ppl removing it from some abilities.

youll see that outlaw rogue isnt mentioned and still capped grossly while arms has a bunch of em uncapped.

it’s interesting that some ppl dont know that and just assume outlaw players are simply bad at mass aoe? hehe. it’s not the players it’s the game :wink: so unfair.

it’s a really fun playstyle tho i still recommend it at the end of the day. Just fair to warn ppl that they’re gonna be sad in prolonged big aoe fights until bliz wakes up and turns the hardcap(5) to a softcap for blade flurry at least.

Ah, didn’t know warrior got blessed.

I’m finding my outlaw to be pretty strong though. It’s not dk or hunter blowing up at 100k or something silly. Highest I’ve had is maybe 40k on a pull.

But my favourite part of outlaw is how my dps is high every pull. I’m not 50k on this pull and 5k for the next 3 pulls. I’m starting to hit around 18k overall in Dungeons and really feeling strong.

Whatever you have more fun with. nobody can answer this for you.

Arms warrior lack a lot of the pros that Fury Warrior have in PvP but they’re still incredibly powerful.

oh yeah it’s solid in general. i think my woes are just exacerbated by the fact that i seem to always be invited to fill a group that has a warlock and a survival :wink: if i end around 18 you can bet they are around 25 lol

I play Arms and it has a fun playstyle. It is still played in PvP but we are outclassed by our sister spec in Fury, set bonus is the juice.

Your go-to is rogue though. It was cracked at the end of S3 and it’s great now, along with the perks of being a rogue.