Outlaw Identity & Spec Design

bring back combat rogue. give every class a new spec like how they treated evoker. leave the gun play and dice rolling to the outlaws. but i do miss dreadblades was fun for its time. hitting like a truck.

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No doubt but they need to extend an olive branch so the healing can commence!

:surfing_woman: :surfing_man:

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Dont you DARE take our guns away.

#fightme

Don’t drop the pistol. Maybe decrease the over-reliance on it. It always bugged me that we have Pistol Shot and Between the Eyes and they look the same. When you Fan the Hammer it just is multiple Pistol Shots. Clearly this is all “efficiency” in using the Pistol Shot animation as often as possible… but maybe it can be changed up some. Cosmetically at a minimum. Can we change the pistol to a crossbow? A blunderbuss?

But don’t ditch the pistol outright. That’s crazy. It’s a very outlaw/pirate/highwayman thing, to whip out a sidearm.

Dreadblades is probably worth bringing back in SOME form, sure.

I’d argue that Blade Rush should be baseline for Outlaw. It’s also a very swashbuckler thing to do. It’s a rush toward your target and an attack. Feels even better to use, personally, with the loss of Shadowstep.

And since Shadowstep is gone, can we prune out the “Diet Subterfuge” stuff already because if I wanted stealth windows I’d … play Sub. I miss Shadowstep but if it’s a price to pay, so be it. Finish the job.

If “Rogues don’t have a dedicated dev” then as a class they must get discussed and iterated on the least by whatever brain trust is doing class revamps.

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Good post and you are a valued member of the WoW community.

:surfing_woman: :surfing_man:

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I like my flintlock glock. I also don’t really like playing stealth windows.
stealth windows is sub’s area
playing a melee rot spec is assassinations area
outlaw’s area should be the in your face, toe to toe, slashing ing and making that flintlock go brrr

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I liked it when it was a proc from Fangs of the Father, as Dreadblades lost you 4% of your health every second for some really obnoxious reason.

That’s literally what Main Gauche means (Outlaw’s mastery)

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Was interesting to read and see people’s opinion on Outlaw.

I honestly haven’t touched it since it became outlaw instead of combat. I didn’t like the changes so I left and didn’t look back

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This was the original reason I hunted leech gear during Legion (and why it worked well). Now, class design is a combo point brrrrr printer, so that Dreadblades iteration is redundant. Would like to see some juice taken out of cramming Crackshot globals, and back into using Sinister Strike and Pistol Shot instead. But alas, that’s not the game anymore.

What happened that Assassination became the most new player friendly Rogue spec? It wasn’t always like this…

(Take my opinion with a salt grain, I quit retail, maybe for good, in favor of SoD and classic. It’s a completely different game, different genre.)

It literally means “left hand”, which is wild since “Sinister” is also left but strikes with the main hand. :thinking:

(There’s a “two left feet” wordplay waiting to happen here…)

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I AGREE. Im so addicted to this version of outlaw and I love crackshot.