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Hey, hey, people.
So, it’s like week 1337 of the worst addon by far and the worst patch by far while playing the worst spec by far (AND I DARE YOU to say that it’s not the case in PVE, the level of lunacy of such deranged individual would be truly astronomical) and I can clearly say that my trust is on another plane of existence.
So much trust that I feel without a second thought that I will put my life on the line for each and every beautiful member of this amazing company.
I really do enjoy this childish stubbornness of grown adults who 100% know that they did amazingly bad (you must really try your hardest to be THAT bad at balancing without doing it deliberately), yet THEY STILL cannot do the right thing toooo… show their adamant will for their company policies… perhaps… multiple question marks.
We won’t do major changes because that is for the next addon.
But we won’t change anything really, since it’s already late in development you see, ooorrr eeehhh people are already invested time in their classes, oooorrrr it’s only about GAMEPLAY and we promise not to do it in the future, or whatever really! Pay us your money for sub and preorder DFA, you plebian monkey! “evil / psycho laugher”.
Havoc is permanently at the bottom of everything forever.
Warlocks are permanently at the top of everything forever (no, it is not ABOUT PI).
Why is this literal torture happening right now is truly beyond my comprehension.
All you had to do is just nerf brand by 15-17% and add 25% to the Havoc excluding pvp and I am pretty sure community would’ve been at least theoretically satisfied until 10.0, SINCE AT LEAST you could’ve play any other covenants other than this BEYOND boring abomination of a build.
But no. Let’s suffer.
This is totally impossible to balance at this point, don’t you get it ¯_(ツ)_/¯?
Monks are extremely good at aoe burst – just nerf burst by like 15%.
Monks are weak on st – just add 10-12% on st.
You must truly be at least Albert Einstein to understand this.
I mean - this game totally isn’t SUBSCRIPTION BASED AND PAYED FOR REAL MONEY OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS AND CONSIDERING THIS DEVELOPERS SHOULD NOT ADRESS ISSUES AND COMPLAINS… you know… A BIT FASTER.
No, no. No can do.
And if this COMPLETE neglect (this class or at least HAVOC is OMEGABAD since the start of this god awful addon, so for LITERAL YEARS OF HUMAN LIFE) is a company policy then sorry but this is a TRASH policy and it needs to be changed (not sorry by the way, I really hate you, it’s mindboggling how bad this addon balance wise).
Okay.
Fine.
You do you.
Best people of the best company.
I am 100% sure that all the complains about your behavior on the working place and all of those criminal investigations are just crazy hoaxes and you’re all perfectly fine individuals who will bring this project to its highest point pretty soon!
I have TOTAL trust in it.
By the way.
Care to show us the sub count?
No?
Yeah, whatever.
Okay, done with the rage.
I am 100% sure that nothing will change till prepatch since this company is run by overgrown children, so I am here to address things that bother me in 10.0.
Or, I mean… to vent and to talk to the wind.
Since complete neglect is of course present on the forums aswell.
So:
1 - Blade dance bug.
So, ever since the first patch (maybe even since beta) of BFA new “interesting” bug appeared that is for some reason was never fixed (I’ve played for the whole legion, and it wasn’t the case back then).
The bug is – sometimes when you’re pressing dance/sweep there is a chance, like 1 out of around 20, that GCD will go off, but skill is not triggered yet it’s lit up for some reason. Considering that dance will FINALLY (JESUS CHRIST) be a permanent button to press - that bug will ONCE AGAIN put my teeth in danger from all the GRINDING since I REALLY enjoy wasting GCDs on NOTHING while Lusted and potted and whatever else.
Actually, this also the same with Immolation aura, warrior bloodthirst (maybe raging blow too not sure but BT is 100%) and maybe even more, I don’t remember already, but at least it needs to be FIXED for Dance.
I am not gonna talk about why it’s not fixed yet… since… it was like… you know… MANY YEARS ALREADY and you must be literally BLIND to not notice it till this day (and NO it’s not my connection, I’ve experienced this bug in many places some of which are literally in DEFFERENT COUNTRIES, and it’s not ONLY me, since I’ve asked many people) so it would be great to finally address it.
2 - Can charge be fixed too?
Now this, as far as I know, is actually about connection. I am not saying that my internet is omega perfection but it’s actually really good almost always and when I am still seeing that charge range is for some reason sometimes 1 step and sometimes half in 2022 while I am having 40 ping I just wanna punch something.
Well AT LEAST I can thank this amazing company that I am not literally randomly disconnected after I am using it!
Thank you!
OR actually who knows? I had some preeetty suspicious Dcs in this addon too that happened right after I used charge.
Maybe this bug is still here!
Wonderful!
3 - Aoe cap.
Name me one logical reason why this ABOMINABLE system still in the game?
Just one.
If it’s about people aoeing down mobs in m+ then add abilities to the mobs (like murloc totems) or some kind of enrage mechanic if there are a lot of them.
Blah blah “fatigue” – tank is feeling overwhelmed and now has minus 20% dodge/parry/haste and taking +20% dmg SCALING of key lvl. Or whatever, really. It can be anything BUT NOT THIS.
Most of players love games cuz of big numbers.
Aoe cap is literally the MOST counter fun system I’ve ever seen.
If I’d be in charge if the agency of making things UNFUN – aoe cap would be my top choice.
Why it exists and who came with this idea in the first place is just beyond me.
I am like 99.9% sure that those people are not playing this game or at least extremely casual.
Also – explain to me why some classes/specs (warlock / fire mage) do not have aoe cap almost at all (no, 20 targets is not cap)?
Just for aoe cap alone I’ll give this joke of an addon 1/10 score.
Even if it’s stays – it should be 8 targets top FOR every melee ability that was capped to 5.
I was keking really hard when sub rogues got buffed mid addon to have 8 targets from 5 and warrior bladestorm got uncapped but Havoc still remained with this abominable useless trash dance.
4 - Mastery.
This mastery (many of them are so it’s like aoe issue of this game) is a complete joke.
It’s not providing any gameplay (no, movespeed, WHICH IS NOW A TALENT XD, isn’t gameplay), just adding plus dmg. Almost every time (outside rarely in legion) it’s like the worst stat.
Why can’t mastery do something special?
Meta rage Cdr?
All skills cdr even? Ever played HOTS?
Mastery SHOULD do unique and exciting things that provide meaningful change to your playthrough.
And it’s almost as dumb as versatility, that is the worst stat gameplay wise (this game needs more NON idiotic stats, cdr / crit dmg / anything really).
Considering that now we will have major crit/haste scaling via talents/100% dblades – mastery will be the worst stat forever.
How about a change? No?
Jesus.
5 - This class needs more BASE abilities.
No, it is not FUN to have THROW GLAIVE to be one of your MAIN abilities.
Imagine adding heroic throw to warrior st rotation or shuriken throw to rogues.
Why not add more abilities that will implement more dynamic and complex gameplay?
WHY???
Name me ONE reason behind it other than neglect / extreme laziness / being talentless hack.
This class has only ONE dps spec.
And considering this – IT SHOULD BE BETTER THAN GOOD GAMEPLAY WISE.
Add more ST abilities (AT LEAST ONE HOLY S, shear question mark).
Maybe EXECUTE ABILITY.
Add some kind of meaningful rotation where strategy can be involved and not just pressing everything on CD, like adding additional rage bar that can be used to amplify your CS / Sweep / Eyes / Whatever else making them different much more hardcore abilities (there are few elite local quest mobs in legion that can cast prolonged sweep for example). Ever played FIGHTING GAMES or Renekton from league?
Or something.
ANYTHING but not “I press things on cooldown”.
6 - Meta.
;))))
Name me one reason why this skill is so BAD.
Plus like 15 % to cs and sweep, minus sweep cd and some haste?
That’s it?
Did a CHILD made this?
Maybe a DOG?
Everything about it just reeks of incompetence.
Considering it’s ASTRONOMICAL CD It should be, - “LET’S GO”, © Senator Armstrong, BEST kind of skill.
Where you’re flipping tanks like pillows and can challenge the GOD himself with it.
Remember the last phase of Mythic Gul’dan?
Remember even this UNKNOWN game called WARCRAFT 3, where lv6 Dh could solo make your opponent to turn his army away.
Yet in wow it is for some reason absolutely laughable.
Paladin wings are like x2 of this ability and it’s even more op if somebody dies (the reason why is this thing still in the game is legit breaking my mind, it’s either totally useless or COMPLETELY OP, laughable talent (is that a talent? I am not wearing pink)).
For example.
Ever played this game called Lost ark?
So there is a Demon girl class (don’t remember how it’s called / demonic?) and she has a demon form.
And in this demon form she has TOTALLY DIFFERENT ABILITIES than in her human form with different cooldowns even.
I mean. Imagine thaa-aat?
I understand that this company will never rework this class this much since you will need to actually WORK… you know… and judging by this addon alone it’s clearly not in their business plan but can we have AT LEAST SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY CHANGES ROTATION AND GAMEPLAY?
And lost ark is actually not a great game at all but compared to Havoc microscopic doge meta their version of meta is like ULTRAINSTINCT GOD-EMPEROR.
Just sad.
Oh, I of course meant to say - SHAME ON YOU, lazyZZard.
7 - Dumb talents.
Not even gonna bother with, - “lets prune skills and then make talents out of it”, - clown fiesta.
But can we PLEASE not have something like – “LOST IN THE DARKNESS” 100% useless, outside of pvp, trash that you CANNOT SKIP if you wanna take 4% stamina for Havoc? If it’s only useful in PVP then it should be a PVP talent or even permanently in the skill.
I mean this choice in particular made me laugh out loud.
To have 4% stamina you have to take either spectral sight useless talent or the talent for sigils that can be taken without even having ANY SIGIL TALENTED by the way! This is GREAT!
Oh yeah, and about this sigil talent.
I am playing Vengeance a LOT ever since the CREATION of this class and I’ve never, and I MEAN NEVER, needed anything like – “seal now under me or under target”. Both of those talents (outside part about 2sec duration) are a literal debuffs and if they would be permanently deleted resulting in havoc having not 31 but 30 points – I’d gladly take it.
Sigil placement should be a glyph or actually it reeks of pvp usefulness. Once again. Make it a pvp option only then.
What is this choice… It’s just – lol.
For example - remember this talent in Mechanicus tree where to take dmg node you had to install yourself with amazing talent such as AUTO OWL POTION?
Wow, now let me tell you something.
I HATE almost everything about covenant trees (I am pretty sure that people who made them do not understand meaning of the word FUN) where good things are placed under TANK / UTILITY nodes and almost useless things placed under dmg ones, which isss… hilariously bad…, but THIS…, this talent is just THE WORST since you actually CANNOT EVEN SKIP IT.
100% person who made it never played tank.
Your hp are constantly jumping up and down and this pot is permanently on cd and because of that you just CANNOT EVER use it when you actually need it to cleanse bleed / necrotic stacks for example. You will need to use some next level Ninjitsu and summon your OWL right at the time when you wanna press your potion which is all around stupid.
This talent is also literally a debuff, made by a clueless / crazy person, that is of course NEVER fixed.
Speaking of such amazing talents.
“Desperate instincts”.
Hey, so. If this trash stays, can it move to pvp?
Since, you know, I am shoouu shtupeeed and I just cannot use my skills when I actually need them.
I really need daddy blizzard to press it for me since there are ZERO bosses, and especially in mythic, when your hp jumping up and down 24/7 and then random debuff is on you and you need to actually press something but OH WAIT – you CANT, since this auto clown trash talent used it for you before this moment.
Thank you. This talent is beyond wonderful.
Easy 1337 Iq fix even if it stays – when you drop below 25% you gain blur (maybe even greater blur +20% of the base) for 3 seconds, 30 second inner cd and your blur now gives you +5%. This is NOT TRIGGERING YOUR ACTUAL BLUR.
So hard, I understand.
Next.
With 100% dblades and baseline felblade - bite wont EVER be used I am like 99.9% sure about it.
How about making it so dblades will give 50% of the rage but you STILL can use basic version of bite?
Wow, this person is totally crazy!
Adding more buttons to press? For THIS CLASS?
“Mortal dance” – another pvp only (trust me, it won’t ever be used in Pve even on situation with healing mobs, since you’re already squeezed by points). Great.
Love it.
Why not just add it as a baseline but only for your main target?
And make a PVP talent to make it work for aoe portion?
Ever heard of this skill called MORTAL STRIKE?
Brb, gonna check warrior talents right now to find out if MS have additional talent now that adds minus heal.
No, I won’t. If it’s there – it’s the same level of stupid.
“Ragefire”
Maybe useful but most likely not really.
Now get this.
Immolation aura is on you for trillion years.
Mini adds in non mouthbreather groups will die before that time and this dmg will only be dealt to a single target boss (thinking about raids) and even in m+ add some burst classes and good rotation of burst cooldowns (I have like 5k 15+ keys cleared in this addon so I kinda know what I am talking about, just saying) and every pack will rarely die after your aura will do it’s full dmg realizing the full potential of this talent.
I am not gonna say that it’s a dumb and completely useless talent but I’d consider a change.
Like adding this dmg to the first tick of your next use of immolation aura that you will press when you actually need it.
Or something.
Now back to the dumb talents.
“Any means necessary”.
Now this is a totally KEK talent.
As far as I can see - this thing is not buffing Dance so realistically it’s only useful for immolation aura since everything else won’t be boosting your dmg by a lot, I mean… Hunt… maybe? But it’s still very clownish.
And it gives like 0 gameplay changes.
…
…Yeeeeaaahhh… this is probably THE WORST final row talent I’ve seen so far.
I would’ve permanently deleted it and add something more suitable for AOE / cleave.
Additional SKILL???
Shear question mark.
After a short charge you do a cone cleave up to 8 (I hate aoe cap but realistically) targets for x2 chaos dmg of fb Sweep leaving debuff on your main target for like 5 – 8 seconds that explodes in aoe chaos dmg of the % dmg you did to that target. 40-50 rage. 30 sec cd. Hits for x4 dmg of fb Sweep if you hit only 1 target.
Question mark.
I mean. Something.
ANYTHING.
Maybe the talent that gives your rage the option to go over the cap of 120 (remember that rogue talent (eeehhh… was it a talent??) when you could have up to 10 combo points?)) so you can do even more bursty combos with essence break? And it will also save a lot of lost rage for when you need to use your beam at above 30 rage (why it costs rage with this talent is just beyond me, so many times I’ve had 29 and the next bite I am already above 60 so I can use Cs but if it won’t proc I’ll need another bite so I just have to use beam on 60 to overcap it. This is stupid on so many levels).
Bottom line - we need more talents like “shattered destiny” for example and less like “any means necessary” trash.
“Burning wound”.
May be applied to up to 3 targets.
…
…?
Ha-ha… what?!
“Fodder to the flame”.
It says nothing about that it gives you a demon soul now.
And if it doesn’t – it’s a complete clownish talent since NOW you will actually need glaives if you’re playing in bloodlet spec. I mean… it’s not a big waste but still. Why should I have a permanent debuff? For what reason?
Or you want me to FIGHT the demon? Massive lol.
5 target aoe cap – even bigger LOL.
Nerf explosion dmg or just actually delete it, make the demon die to your aoe (immo aura) faster and when it’s dead its soul will give you +5% for 15-20 sec.
Make the demon spawn when you’re pressing clickable meta.
This SHOULD BE ST OPTION SINCE DECREE IS A CLEAVE OPTION.
“Elysian Decree”
This talent is just trash for havoc. Always was.
It’s good for tank since for some clownish reasons vengeance talent for sigil cdr actually decreasing its cd aswell.
Maybe developers aren’t even aware of it. Maybe it’s a bug. I don’t know. But it is currently in the game since the start.
Now adding Owl follower to it and it’s like almost minus 50% cdr for it IN TANK only.
But since owl is not following you to DFA plus you won’t have dmg node for it…
So this talent is just an omega trash.
1 minute cd for havoc?
And it does pitiful dmg.
And it has 5 target cap?!
Absolute barbarity.
It should do X2 dmg.
X4-5 if used only on one target.
Or it should have like 25-30 sec cd for spammable aoe option, FOR TANK ALSO.
The way it is now – is a disaster area.
“Restless hunter”
Sounds like another only PVP option.
And even if it’s for demonic – there is a talent nearby called “Inner demon” that does aoe UNCAPPED chaos dmg.
Compared to one buffed blade dance that is 5 target cap.
Joke… no?
You can take them both… but… why even take it?
I won’t.
“Essence break”.
My god.
+100% for 4sec.
Hey, I’ve got an idea!
How about 200% for 2 seconds?
Or maybe 400% for 1 second?
OR 10000000% for 0.000001?
I mean…
The main point of this talent is to give you a burst window for demonic meta use if you’re combining the two AND YOU SHOULD.
Can we scale back to 6 seconds and like 40% with 20-25 sec cd?
Or actually even 7-8 seconds so you can use it BEFORE eye beam, and it still will debuff the target for the entirety of demonic?
Now that would’ve been amazing!
You feel me?
And will finish with something like – “Improved chaos strike”.
Every.
And I mean EVERY talent that straight up gives ONLY plus dmg to ability and nothing more – is a dumb talent that should not exist in 2022 outside games made by one little child for ten dollars.
Period.
I mean, look at the immolation aura talent that can be taken the same time you can have this one.
It gives +2 seconds to aura and dmg sigil.
At least SOME kind of gameplay.
But this…
This is just bad.
I mean… It’s awful.
Like total trash.
Oh, yeah. I forget about one more thing.
In BFA the haste buff from eye beam actually stacked with x2 time if you were using eyes two times in a row.
Right now, the duration just resets punishing you for zero reason.
If it’s still like this in 10.0 it too needs to be changed.
Okay.
I am done venting.
I am like 100% sure this work of mine was just a total time waste buuuuttt… my soul…
It’s like very close to being dead from playing this god awful class that is forever neglected.
Nobody wanna play it so you just have to wear this cross adding those juicy 5% to the warlocks who are always 200% arrogant since they unironically think that it’s their amazing skill that is the only reason they can make 1.5-2 million dmg with 1 (ONE) press of implosion and Havoc cannot do the same for the entirety of the fight while using axe trinkets and metas and all the rest fel rushing bs.
I just…
Wanna see justice for once.
I wanna see that the SKILL of the individual actually matters.
And I won’t lose to melee Shaman by a million on single target while we’re both having 100% logs and same gear.
Is there even a crumb of this justice in this world?
God, I hate this addon
So much.
