In OSRS, they have a system for adding new content into their old game.
If they want to add something new to the game, all the players with a paying membership can vote at the poll. Over 75% of the votes must be positive for the change to go through.
I would like this for Classic WoW in some sense. It simplifies every argument. If 25% of the player base doesn't like a change being added to Classic WoW than it won't be added.
Dislike #nochanges saying updated graphics are bad? Vote yes to add updated graphics into Classic. If it's really that important to have updated graphics in Classic WoW than 75% of the playerbase should agree on it.
The game is meant to be as close to vanilla as possible, so if less than 75% of the players base want a change it's probably straying too far from vanilla.
no
Oldschool runescape isn't even oldschool runescape after all the changes people voted in. the game and meta is completely different.
Oldschool runescape isn't even oldschool runescape after all the changes people voted in. the game and meta is completely different.
Except in OSRS they changed what that game is entirely it's not old school anymore.
Worked for OSRS. No even an option for Classic Wow.
Also, search is your friend.
Cheers,
Loq
Also, search is your friend.
Cheers,
Loq
10/31/2018 06:42 PMPosted by AvarondExcept in OSRS they changed what that game is entirely it's not old school anymore.
That's why I am #nochanges. But we are already getting changes. Small changes at the start, just like OSRS, but over time...
If people want Vanilla the game will stay Vanilla. If they don't? Oh well, too good to be true.
10/31/2018 07:18 PMPosted by Ascendedboi10/31/2018 06:42 PMPosted by AvarondExcept in OSRS they changed what that game is entirely it's not old school anymore.
That's why I am #nochanges. But we are already getting changes. Small changes at the start, just like OSRS, but over time...
If people want Vanilla the game will stay Vanilla. If they don't? Oh well, too good to be true.
We're getting changes that don't effect the gameplay. I'm not completely happy with visual updates but st least it's not game play.
10/31/2018 07:18 PMPosted by Ascendedboi10/31/2018 06:42 PMPosted by AvarondExcept in OSRS they changed what that game is entirely it's not old school anymore.
That's why I am #nochanges. But we are already getting changes. Small changes at the start, just like OSRS, but over time...
If people want Vanilla the game will stay Vanilla. If they don't? Oh well, too good to be true.
Here's the problem those people from retail they're going to influence your votes as well as people who wanted TBC or WotLK to make it more like what they want. It happened in OSRS it will absolutely happen here if it has the polling system.
exactly. They should just leave vanilla the way it was. Take it or leave it.10/31/2018 07:23 PMPosted by Avarond10/31/2018 07:18 PMPosted by Ascendedboi...
That's why I am #nochanges. But we are already getting changes. Small changes at the start, just like OSRS, but over time...
If people want Vanilla the game will stay Vanilla. If they don't? Oh well, too good to be true.
Here's the problem those people from retail they're going to influence your votes as well as people who wanted TBC or WotLK to make it more like what they want. It happened in OSRS it will absolutely happen here if it has the polling system.
There needs to be a sticky explaining that Blizzard does not want to run two MMOs and the overwhelming probability is that "Classic" is a one-and-done project that will receive no further updates after launch, except perhaps for bug fixes, and the chances of it getting any new content are virtually nil.
Not that anybody would read the sticky, but still.
Not that anybody would read the sticky, but still.
10/31/2018 06:39 PMPosted by Agonyyno
Oldschool runescape isn't even oldschool runescape after all the changes people voted in. the game and meta is completely different.
Thank god it has recieved updates, the endgame content for Oldschool Runescape on release was Barrows, level 70 content. That's it, and you could solo barrows. You could solo it with 43 prayer, no gear and low level magic. Myself and many others were doing barrows and getting barrows gear before anyone even had 70 defense.
Oldschool Runescape without updates would have eventually died instead of seeing the fantastic multi-year growth it has seen. So, I don't really understand why people knock Oldschool Runescape. It's a fantastic example of an old version of an MMO done right.
There was a lot of hype upon its release but there was no future if the end game pve (pvm in RS) was barrows.
No. The player base in general isn’t qualified to make these decisions.
You think you do but you don't.
Yes Blizzard said that, thing was they misused that statement. They did so because people already knew vanilla was great. To use the statement properly is to say it to someone who requests something they know not the effect it will have whereas you hold greater experience of such a request.
Yes Blizzard said that, thing was they misused that statement. They did so because people already knew vanilla was great. To use the statement properly is to say it to someone who requests something they know not the effect it will have whereas you hold greater experience of such a request.
10/31/2018 06:39 PMPosted by Agonyyno
Oldschool runescape isn't even oldschool runescape after all the changes people voted in. the game and meta is completely different.
10/31/2018 06:42 PMPosted by AvarondExcept in OSRS they changed what that game is entirely it's not old school anymore.
This.
If we're sticking with runescape comparisons, I want to play what runescape was in 2007. Not what OSRS as become now.
They're 2 completely different games.
I want to play Vanilla again. (Or the closest thing that's realistically possible due to it being 2018.)
Not some shell of a game that used to be Vanilla.
If I wanted an updated game I'd be playing retail or one of the other xpacs on a pserver.
11/01/2018 12:41 AMPosted by FacerollNo. The player base in general isn’t qualified to make these decisions.
Exactly.
Flying is the best example. Everyone loves flying, the ability to fly in the game that is. In a space devoid of all other content and ideas of the game to be able to fly is better than not being able to fly. We all loved flying when it came into WoW during BC... But none of us knew to what extent it had on the game. It kills wpvp, shortens the world and empties the zones. It is quite literally one of the greatest destroyers of WoW, would be above Deathwing himself had he not literally wrecked the vanilla zones.
And yet to us, the children at heart looking at flying like a sole ability all on it's own in a vacuum of space, it is nothing but pure enjoyment.
This is why we fail to understand something, to believe that it is something we want dearly when in reality we do not want it for it brings with it great ripple-like effects.
To fly is to travel faster, to avoid obstacles and to soar through the sky... but to fly is to see less of the world for what it is, to never see those we pass by in the world and to avoid the challenge of dealing with players of the opposing faction out in the world.
Taking in the very first line of that is to take flying in a vacuum. We all look at changes in a vacuum and assume that they are great. It is only when they come out of said vacuum and into the world (of warcraft) that we feel the ripples that are the following lines.
No
When you realise that over 75% of the current player base hasn't even played classic this is an absolutely awful idea :(
Another terrible idea.
It's a terrible idea from day 1, but it's an excellent idea later down the road.
As someone said above, OSRS would have died a long time ago without updates. Updates that were never in the original, yes. But also updates to the game you cannot find in RS3. It's the exclusive content and regular updates that keep people coming back.
Yes, sometimes the community votes stupid stuff in, but we can be smarter than them. We all want to see classic be bigger than retail. And that can happen only if we are willing to let it happen.
As someone said above, OSRS would have died a long time ago without updates. Updates that were never in the original, yes. But also updates to the game you cannot find in RS3. It's the exclusive content and regular updates that keep people coming back.
Yes, sometimes the community votes stupid stuff in, but we can be smarter than them. We all want to see classic be bigger than retail. And that can happen only if we are willing to let it happen.
There are some huge misconceptions in this thread let me clear them up;
1) People did not ask for "old school" runescape, they just very strongly disagreed with the EoC update so jagex "rolled back" the game and offered it as a separate service.
2) The only reason OSRS has polls is because people still wanted the game to be updated and have new content added as if EoC had never happened and jagex had instead just continued developing runescape pre-EoC.
3) No changes
Classic is not vanilla before all the expansions happened. It's classic. If you wanted classic with new content/raids/items you should have asked for that before you told blizzard you wanted classic with no changes.
1) People did not ask for "old school" runescape, they just very strongly disagreed with the EoC update so jagex "rolled back" the game and offered it as a separate service.
2) The only reason OSRS has polls is because people still wanted the game to be updated and have new content added as if EoC had never happened and jagex had instead just continued developing runescape pre-EoC.
3) No changes
Classic is not vanilla before all the expansions happened. It's classic. If you wanted classic with new content/raids/items you should have asked for that before you told blizzard you wanted classic with no changes.
If you put it to a poll classic WoW wouldn't even be in the process of being recreated.
There's no way to ensure that only the people that are the reason it's being recreated are the ones that get to vote. It'd be like Chevy fans voting on the direction of upcoming Ford models.
MMO design shouldn't be poll-based anyway, which is probably just one of many reasons I don't play any flavor of Runescape. Want that sort of thing? Go get it. Don't want it? I think I'm in the right place?
There's no way to ensure that only the people that are the reason it's being recreated are the ones that get to vote. It'd be like Chevy fans voting on the direction of upcoming Ford models.
MMO design shouldn't be poll-based anyway, which is probably just one of many reasons I don't play any flavor of Runescape. Want that sort of thing? Go get it. Don't want it? I think I'm in the right place?