Orcs Should Be More Like Shrek

[Luxuria-sentinels]

@Glazavglaza-grobbulus

Did better than almost any other video game based movie ever made

Which says a lot more about video game based movies than it does about the Warcraft movie lol

@Glazavglaza-grobbulus

made 439+ million in the box office.

But the break-even point was 500 million so it flopped and lost a lot of money.

[Veruu-moon-guard (Veruu)]

This game had an Ogre Roman Empire and didn’t make them playable. Forget the rest of WoD and make it about us fighting the ogre Romans. Spartacus but Ogres.

The missed potential of WoD is through the roof.

[Landusk-eonar (Landusk)]

@Luxuria-sentinels

Hear me out:

Shrek was highly profitable. The Warcraft Movie flopped. Therefore, Shrek draws more money in than Warcraft.

So if Blizzard make Orcs similar to Shrek, WoW gets more players and sells more merchandising, which means there will be more money to invest in quality content.

Shrek leads to better Raids.

Good luck try to hire and pay Mike Myers to do the VA case that gonna be feet.

[Vladinov-stormrage]

@Landusk-eonar

Good luck try to hire and pay Mike Myers to do the VA

They could just use Branns VA, everyone loves him!

[Myzrym-area-52]

@Luxuria-sentinels

Shrek draws more money in than Warcraft.

I’m pretty sure the Warcraft IP has the (combined) Shrek movies beat by like 6 billion even if we don’t include the last four years.

And this includes the Puss In Boots movies as part of the Shrek franchise.

[Luxuria-sentinels]

@Myzrym-area-52

I’m pretty sure the Warcraft IP has the (combined) Shrek movies beat by like 6 billion even if we don’t include the last four years.

That may be true, but only because Warcraft is a lot more prolific than Shrek.

Shrek releases one movie once in a while, only 7 movies total in 24 years of existence (including the two Puss in Boots movies).

WoW alone has more expansions than Shrek has movies. Shrek doesn’t charge monthly fees. Warcraft has 3 games currently supported by Blizzard. Plus there’s all the games that came before.

So Warcraft has better sheer numbers because it’s always hustling, always squeezing every penny it can from it’s fans while Shrek just sleeps. But whenever Shrek actually does something it makes way more money than whatever Warcraft is doing because Shrek has more fans.

[Jarlton-area-52]

@Luxuria-sentinels

Shrek was highly profitable. The Warcraft Movie flopped. Therefore, Shrek draws more money in than Warcraft.

Shrek is an ogre. WoW movie lacked ogres. And donkeys. Orcs aren’t the problem.

[Luxuria-sentinels]

@Jarlton-area-52

Shrek is an ogre.

Again, the Ogres from Shrek are a lot closer to the Orcs from Warcraft than the Ogres from Warcraft.

@Luxuria-sentinels

While that’s true, Ogre is just a word. It may very well mean one thing in one setting and another thing in another setting.

The fact is that Shrek is way closer in size, appearance and intelligence to Warcraft Orcs than he is to Warcraft Ogres.

Plus the words “Orc” and “Ogre” were originally the same word. They both originate from “Orcus”, the Etruscan god of the underworld.

It’s kinda like how the “Elves” from Harry Potter look more like Warcraft Goblins than Warcraft Elves.

[Saángreal-moon-guard (Saángreal)]

Midnight

Orcs will team up with a snarky half donkey half pit lord and get robbed by a bard kitty cat wearing boots. All to save the Orc Princess from the (insert yet another dragon) and the Princess turns out to be secretly human who is actually Khadgar’s and Onyxia secret love child, a secret heir to both the dragon throne and the throne of all Magi

[Heskin-cenarion-circle]

@Glazavglaza-grobbulus

@Luxuria-sentinels

The Warcraft Movie flopped

Did better than almost any other video game based movie ever made and made 439+ million in the box office.

Considering that most video game adaptations tended to either be overly hammy products of the early 90s (although anyone who has ever seen Raul Julia as M. Bison will eat their ham and enjoy it, too) or made by Uwe Boll, not exactly a particularly high bar to hop. Fairly sure even the director has kinda distanced himself from it. (And when your dad was David Bowie and you look at it and go “NO”, yeah. You know some line has been crossed.)

[Ekhana-arugal]

I don’t think WoW needs more fart jokes.

[Ataxerxes-dalaran (Ataxerxes)]

Here’s the problem: Shrek is an Ogre.

Ogres, as we’ve established beyond any reasonable doubt, are not Orcs. QED.

Although seeing Mike Myers as Garrosh would be hilarious.

[Luxuria-sentinels]

@Ataxerxes-dalaran

Here’s the problem: Shrek is an Ogre.

Ogres, as we’ve established beyond any reasonable doubt, are not Orcs. QED.

We’ve been through that already:

@Luxuria-sentinels

While that’s true, Ogre is just a word. It may very well mean one thing in one setting and another thing in another setting.

The fact is that Shrek is way closer in size, appearance and intelligence to Warcraft Orcs than he is to Warcraft Ogres.

Plus the words “Orc” and “Ogre” were originally the same word. They both originate from “Orcus”, the Etruscan god of the underworld.

Like, imagine if they decided to add Dobby from Harry Potter to WoW.

Dobby is an Elf. Except the Elves from Harry Potter are a lot closer to WoW Goblins than they are to WoW Elves. What Race would WoWDobby be? Blood Elf or Goblin?

I would say Goblin.

Words are just words. The substance is more important.

[Jarlton-area-52]

@Luxuria-sentinels

What Race would WoWDobby be? Blood Elf or Goblin?

I would say Goblin.

There are already goblins in harry potter that would just be goblins in wow though, and house elves aren’t the same as them so your race conversions are just getting messy. And there are other elves that look closer to dobby than blood elves, like withered.

[Luxuria-sentinels]

@Jarlton-area-52

There are already goblins in harry potter that would just be goblins in wow though, and house elves aren’t the same as them so your race conversions are just getting messy.

It’s always messy when you try to convert people from one fantasy setting to another fantasy setting. That’s because there’s no hard rule of how these fictional races are supposed to be across different authors.

(Except Humans. Humans are always easy lol)

For example: Lots of Japanese fantasy settings have Orcs being pig people and Kobolds as dog people.

If they were to add these Pig Orcs and Dog Kobolds to WoW, they would probably switch them to Quillboar and Vulpera respectively, because maintaining the fantasy is more important than maintaining the name.

[Xinner-moon-guard]

@Luxuria-sentinels

But the break-even point was 500 million so it flopped and lost a lot of money.

So it DID lost money. I thought so. Shame. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

[Ataxerxes-dalaran (Ataxerxes)]

Words are just words, until you try to install the wrong size battery in your car.

Then you discover, to the accompaniment of burning insulation, that specific words can be really important.

[Luxuria-sentinels]

@Ataxerxes-dalaran

Words are just words, until you try to install the wrong size battery in your car.

But that’s substance, not words.

(I don’t drive so I don’t know anything about cars, so I’m gonna use regular batteries as an example)

Like, imagine you have a device that uses A batteries. But then you go to a different country where the names of the smallest batteries are “A, B and C” instead of “AAA, AA and A”.

So a C battery is the size you need. Would you buy an A battery anyway just because it’s called “A”? That would be ill advised.

[Ataxerxes-dalaran (Ataxerxes)]

Point is, words have meanings. You don’t just pull them out of a hat arbitrarily. Unless you admit some kind of standards, you don’t know what it is you’re trying to do.

[Luxuria-sentinels]

@Ataxerxes-dalaran

Point is, words have meanings.

Yeah, but meaning changes depending on the circumstances.

Shrek exists in a different universe, that has different things. Shrek Ogres are closer to Warcraft Orcs than they are to Warcraft Ogres. Shrek is not a giant. He isn’t stupid. He isn’t part of the Roman Empire. He is a slightly tall green guy of average intelligence who is friends with a bunch of fantasy characters that have nothing in common (basically what the Horde is lol).

Another example of how words change meaning from universe to universe: In Dragon Quest, an Orc is a pig man. In Warcraft, the Orcs are the Orcs and the Pig men are called “Quillboar”.