Orc Eyebrows: The Quest for Facial Hair for all

:axe: Orc Eyebrows.

:tiger: Troll Beards and Eyebrows .

:skull: :palm_tree: Forsaken and Goblin Facial Hair (And brows).

:sunny: Better and more robust facial hair, for Blood Elves.

My never ending quest of wishing for eyebrows for orcs has always included the rest. Though orcs most of all (for me) represent something in how we portray designs to an audience.

If you want a character design example of lore not being shown in-game, look no further than the orcs . Many times I’ve seen people say:
ā€œMy theory is, because Thrall was raised by humans he never thought to shave them off. He just didn’t know.ā€

But it really shows how normal, and how natural, of a feature it is to have that no one noticed every other instance an orc has been portrayed with them:

TCG, Comics, Old projects, WCII, every version of Gul’dan except in-game (and possibly the Reforged model?). Blademasters that people seem to love. Mists of Pandaria’s orc just went over peoples head. Every orc in the movie.

This is an example of the way we experience the game is not how Azeroth looks. The lack of eyebrows is the customization version of a portal room. Makes little sense and is only there (or not there) for the player.

Thrall’s features are only to connect to the player, but that is an injustice to the rest of the orcs. In a way, it gives lacking eyebrows the implication that if you don’t have them, you look unwelcoming orā€¦ā€œsavageā€. It’s more brutal. When in fact, the characters I’ve seen with them still look just as brutal. If anything, the eyebrows further accentuate the emotions. If the whole philosophy behind the orcs was to make them an actual culture that were not just faceless pawns to be enemies , then why design them to give people the false idea that they for, some reason, do not have them ? Why only let Thrall have them for us to connect to, when we should be readily connecting with all the orcs?

From the beginning, Thrall was unique. Everyone knew his story. I was moved by it because I connected to it for very personal reasons, and yes his design does help. But it’s largely because he’s the only orc they actually give softer features to, where as the rest are forced to be harsh…when in reality, they are just as diverse.

So gather around, join me. Let us reflect again on the lack of facial hair or the lack of meaningful facial hair.

:skull:
If Forsaken have hair on their head, they should have it on their face. Derek Proudmoore who’s been dead for many naughty naughty years, and should be a skeleton in a coat, was reborn with a full head of hair and a goatee. Nathanos made more sense because it happened right away. I’ve read in two separate cases in the books of Forsaken being mentioned with facial hair. They should have scraggly eyebrows and beards. (Again, this is sadly the males being forced to look mean.)

:tiger:
Trolls especially need their facial hair expanded upon, and I don’t need to go into detail why trying to separate them is no good. Vol’jin alone is proof enough.

:black_joker:
There are many examples in Hearthstone helping these cases, but I try not to think too hard on Hearthstone. The way I approach Hearthstone is that none of it is canon (yet, I know I know.), so it could be used against players by saying ā€œWell none of that is accurate to use as an example.ā€ However, Hearthstone may not be canon, but I feel it heavily expands upon the diverse bodies and looks of different races in the world which makes troll beards and orc eyebrows examples get more of a plus.

And goblins…well. Just give them the options. Nobody should be without them.

:panda_face:
(For some reason, the pandaren exist in this weird eyebrow to no eyebrow bubble. Some female pandaren face patterns have a dark line above their eye going along their eye spots, like an eyebrow. And the male pandaren have a fully modeled eyebrow option. There is more of a …allowance for furred races to not have them. But I think with the way this world works, a social species who relies on facial queues should have eyebrow patterns. :star: Just take a look at how dogs and their evolution to develop eyebrow muscles to communicate with humans better. There is a real purpose for the feature in a species who communicate on a deep social level.) If it was never mentioned as a culture thing, it is an unnecessary design choice that should be changed now.

:star: Evolution of facial muscle anatomy in dogs (https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1820653116) (Warning for scientific images of a cross section cut of a dog’s head for anatomical study.)

:star: ā€˜Puppy dog eyes’ evolved so dogs could communicate with us (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/dogs-eyebrows-humans-communication)

Give orcs eyebrows. :wolf:

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:face_with_raised_eyebrow::angry::weary::thinking::pensive:

Brow expressions orcs need

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There are so many appearance features that need to be filled out. Gotosh could write a book. A measure of the great depth of Gotosh’ rp.

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The solution to this is simply shaving Thralls eyebrows once and for all.

I… am a Warsong.

I might be a Peacesong if I just had some eyebrows. My violence is actually rooted in a deep sense of insecurity about the fact that my chin is so hairy, but my eyebrows so bare.

Help me, Blizzard. Help me realise my hairy browed potential, so that I can be a force for good in Nagrand, rather than a force for ill :frowning:

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I’m here on behalf of the Goblins to throw our lot in because all we have is sideburns and most are ala balding. We need facial hair too.

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On the other side of the brow spectrum, all ā€œlong browedā€ races should be able to shave them to look less bug-like. I like Lightforged Draenei significantly less than normal draenei solely for this reason

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Grommash Hellscream in the movie has them!! While it’s an AU, I think the whole purpose was to show Azeorth, especially the orcs, in the most realistic way possible. So while it’s an AU, I feel the designs were created with the intentions of how they would look if we were really seeing them.
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Which is funny, considering his concept art did not have them yet all the other orcs (Orgrim, Durotan, Gul’dan ect) did. He’s the one orc who is consistent with not being depicted with eyebrows.

And don’t worry Gorronoth, you don’t need them to be good! I believe in you whole heatedly that you will bring a force of goodness to Nagrand with the sheer will of your orcish heart alone!!! One does not need brows to be good, but you will be able to do this :face_with_raised_eyebrow:


Agreed. I’m all for better assortment of customization regardless. Trust me, Miko, you have my support. I’ve loved draenei since I was young and the face the draenei male options are so minimal makes me sad. Barely any crystal jewelry or embellishments.

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I think every male option should have their backside re sculpted too. Enough with this flat back era.

I really like how they gave Nightborne the three eyebrow length options. Now Belfs need that option so every helm doesn’t have eyebrows clipping through them.

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My orc has eyebrows.

Honestly not much of a fan of facial hair… buuuuut. I always support more customization options for characters so bring on the fuzzy!

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If it can mean Forsaken can finally have goatee and beards hell yeah!!! Big missed opportunity for a Forsaken version of all the human facial hair options + a good assortment of Forsaken original looks. Whispy, patchy, hardcore looks with metal or bones.

She sure does! But most all female options in-game have eyebrows except for tauren and worgen. But worgen women have eye patterns that mimic it like pandaren. Unsure if tauren do. Orc women also have more jewelry options which makes me a little sad. A little strange we had a whole story arc over a necklace that belonged to Saurfang…but no male orc necklaces…

Tauren and Moosen don’t have eyebrows, I don’t even think they have fur patterns.

100% support more customization for everyone. This game is still severely lacking.

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