Option to hard-toggle Visage form?

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I would really enjoy the option to remain in my Visage form ‘permanently’, i.e, not have to swap to Dracthyr form when casting certain abilities. Or at the very least, have the option to automatically return to the Visage form as soon as those spells are finished casting / buff durations have expired.

I love my Visage form. It’s great. I found an amazing transmog I like to show off, and I’ve always loved the Human Female casting animations. The Dracthyr I made is cool too, but until there are more armor options, particularly for the headpiece, I really do prefer staying in my Visage. We can already do that, to an extent, so long as we’re not casting certain abilities. But i’ll be perfectly honest, when i’m healing keys, I am a liiiiiiitle bit reluctant to hit my breath abilities knowing I’ll pop into Dracthyr and have to manually swap back (which will cost a GCD!)

I know that the visage form animations are limited and do not quite fit certain Dracthyr spells, especially the CC racials, but that’s a tiny inconvenience I think a lot of people can overlook in favor of hard-toggling Visage form. But again, there can be a compromise if there was an option to automatically revert into Visage form as soon as the animation for the Dracthyr abilities were finished.

And hey, if Korialstrasz can make it through the entire War of the Ancients in Visage form, I think it would make sense story-wise for this to be a thing too!

TL:DR
Would be great if we could get the ability to remain in visage form at all times, regardless of combat. OR fix the ‘Chosen Identity’ racial to automatically return the Dracthyr to their Visage form when not using animations and abilities that are dependant on the Dracthyr model.

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Play an elf/human then?

Why are you playing a dracthyr only for them being in their disguise?

No other Dragon fights in their visage form… Only if they have no other choice…
Like Wrathion with the dagger against N’zoth or the one blue Dragon back in WotLK (which we trapped in her visage form)

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Because I enjoy how the class plays, and the class is strictly tied to the Dracthyr race.

I do enjoy the Dracthyr form, and I’ll feel like switching into it now and again, but the option to hard toggle would be a great QoL change. Not like I’m going to quit the game if this doesn’t become a thing- just a suggestion I’d like to see implemented :slight_smile:

And if you really do want to argue about it, there are plenty of times where Dragons have fought in their Visage forms. In the books, especially. Chromie, Krasus, and Kalecgos just to name a few. The entire point of a visage form is to express ones own personal identity, and some dragons just feel it more suitable to cast in their humanoid forms.

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because they are the only ones with the new class? being 100% honest i wouldn’t play that race if i could have the evoker in another. A lot of customization, yes, but it kills the sense of transmog and I prefer transmog 1000 times instead of dracthyr customizations.

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Sorry no Won’t happen just like worgan

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Edited* Sorry. I misunderstood what you were asking for and mentioned “Chosen Identity”.

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Wow… I knew that some people really liked transmog (which I don’t get, it’s just a money and time sink that is completely pointless). But seriously? If you want to play as a non-dragon, play as a non-dragon. There’s many classes out there you can play.

The transmogs for Dracthyr in both dragon and visage form are utterly crap. They haven’t been designed/thought-through or fully implemented. For someone to think they’ve got a really good Visage transmog… well, you’ve either lucked out and found some pieces that actually work, or you’re just straight up lying.

Either way, you play Dracthyr to be a dragon… Why would you want to NOT be a dragon?

I can see some appeal to dynamically switching between Visage and dragon form in combat, depending on the ability you use, if it were to make sense. A bit like D4 Druid.

But none of it makes sense in a non-dragon form, because all abilities are dragon aspect spell schools, or require wings. Neither of which your Visage form would be the preference for.

You can automatically switch to Visage out of combat, which I presume you already do - but honestly the model and transmogs look so bad I can’t see why anyone would want to at this moment.

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I honestly just like the fact that they are sorcerers, not the biggest fan of the tall gecko thingy.

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It is quite the wow forums cliche at this point to go “why play (race) then? go be a (race that can’t be the class in question).”

I’ve seen it a thousand times with worgen druids that like humans and druids and hate worgen form, then kul tiran druid/shaman, and now I’m seeing it again with people that are telling folks that like Evoker but not dragon form.

This type of dismissive comment needs to stop. It is clear that they would “just be a human evoker” if they could, and you’re derailing the thread.

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Blizzard should make Visage actually work as described.

Currently it only swaps us back to human form after using some abilities. Other abilities, like Hover, don’t return us to human form when they end.

Blizzard should make Visage return us to human form EVERY TIME after exiting combat or finishing using an ability that requires dragon form.

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I’m glad you think so. I got the same response multiple times here and I was beginning to wonder if I was crazy.

It’s not so difficult to understand. I like the Evoker toolkit. I like the mechanical function of their abilities. I like how they perform DPS and Healing. Combative gameplay is my main priority when creating a character. I like the Evoker as a CLASS.

However, I also find value in aesthetic and character expression. So there is a little preference I have with the Dracthyr as a RACE.

Unfortunately, the Evoker class and the Dracthyr race are restricted to one another, and while Visage forms do a lot to alleviate the pitfalls of this restriction, I think it would be worthwhile to introduce the changes I stated in my main post: The ability to remain in visage form at all times, regardless of combat. OR fix the ‘Chosen Identity’ racial to automatically return the Dracthyr to their Visage form when not using animations and abilities that are dependant on the Dracthyr model.

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They do need to fix the Visage form so that if you opt to always be in Visage form when not in combat that it actually works that way (although having only switched to Visage form twice, because I don’t like it, I can’t say if it does have any issues or not).

They should add other forms, not just belf/human. Being able to play with the Visage that you want is an important feature, and i’m sure it will come with time, but they had a deadline to meet and in the world of development, deadlines tend to take precedent over scope. So we get what we get, until they have time to add it later.

However, I don’t agree that we should be able to cast spells in Visage form. That does not make sense to me (plus it looks kinda dumb imo).

There are plenty of “sorcerer” type classes in game, Elemental Shaman, Shadow Priest, All Warlock Specs, All Mage Specs and so on… So the comment about “I want to feel like a sorcerer” applies to those classes and specs. Dracthyr are not a sorcerer, they’re dragons. They use dragon magic, and they fly - which requires them to be in dragon form.

You can’t breath fire, tail swipe, or hover if you’re in Visage form (if we assume any kind of realism here), and yes it’s a game, it’s all made up, but there’s a fine line between fantasy and ridiculousness. It just does not make sense to enter combat in Visage.

Will they make it possible in the future? Maybe, but they’d need to create the animations to work with the Visage form, which might be a problem if they allow any Visage form. As it stands they wouldn’t have all of that work to do.

Am I going to fight for you not to have it? Of course not. I just don’t think it makes sense, but if it’s what you want to do and they let you do it, have at it. I’ll laugh at it and call it stupid, but each to their own.

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Wrathion stabbed an Old God with a knife in visage form.

Just saying.

I support this. I found a transmog I like, and my Visage form looks pretty good IMO and I’d like to show off both (as a side note, I’ve also made a post about allowing us to see our Visage on the Character Select because I’d like to see it when I log out in that form as well).

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This is realistically my only argument. It would be pretty silly to see someone breathing fire or dream breathing in visage form.

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This already exists when using certain toys that transform your character. For example: Orb of the Sin’dorei. The ‘Fire Breath’ spell just comes out of your character’s Hands, like a regular spellcast.

Regardless, if staying in Visage form at all times is pushing the envelope too much, I would still be extremely happy with tuning the current ‘Chosen Identity’ ability to revert our characters into Visage form right after the Dracthyr-model-dependant abilities have finished casting/durations expired.

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It’s not for me, but I don’t see why it shouldn’t be a “glyph of stars” style option. Elden Ring showed that you can be 1, some guy, 2, breathing fire/tail swiping/flapping wings while still being some guy, and 3, looking cool while doing it.
(also, yes, give worgen their chosen identity skill)

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I definitely agree with you on that, think it might be a bug? Or intended? It’s kind of frustrating that it only happens and switches back sometimes with certain spells and not every time.

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Which I said … and you try holding a tiny dagger in big fangs …
but they don’t do things like dragon breath or any other dragon ability in Visage

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If you use an orb of deception toy, and cast evoker spells, they do not change you to dragon form. So this shows it can be done easily with some compromises.

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Yeah i want this too.

Dragon form is cool, but i’m huge and take up a lot of screen real-estate in combat.

Would like the option to stay in visage even if it’s janky looking. The cornerstone of this race’s design is customization and representing yourself. Makes sense to be able to do what you like with the customizations you have.

And to all the people who say, “just go play X race if you want to be X race all the time”. Stop, it’s not helpful, and it’s not an argument. You know Evoker can only be played by one race, and just shutting down the conversation like that doesn’t contribute to the discussion whatsoever. It’s not like worgen, where all but one of their classes is playable by actual humans.

If Dracthyr ever get glyphs i’d like it a lot of there was one where you’d be in visage permanently outside of a few skills.

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