Operation Mechagon: Dungeon Overtuned!

[Zóren-dragonmaw (Zóren)]

Lol Mechagon isn’t even hard.

You just actually gotta learn mechanics and use your classes utility.

We had trouble on the last boss. We started offhealing each other and shielding ppl during the big zap and we cleared it.

Get better at what you’re doing or get left behind, like how it is in the real world.

[Lusent-area-52]

i could care less for wows bad end game…lol

[Zóren-dragonmaw (Zóren)]

WIth fat pulls and full consumables, I could actually see it happening.

[Gynae-proudmoore]

I cleared it with a pug. The dungeon is unforgiving if you dont do the mechanics. It was helluva fun tho.

[Lokaa-wyrmrest-accord]

i could care less for wows bad end game…lol

I think you mean couldn’t care less

And if you don’t care for end-game content (and don’t participate in it), then I really don’t get why you’re even commenting about it’s difficulty. I mean, you certainly can, and no one is stopping you, but personally I only pay attention to “reviews” from people that actually used/experienced the product they’re reviewing.

[Rastlin-eldrethalas (Rastlin)]

boss number four is nearly mathematically impossible because of the complicated puzzle just to kill the boss. you need a phd to play this game anymore?

the alarm bots will always get you no matter what you do and thats if you even get to the final platform, which requires the precision and steady hand of a surgeon

Agreed.

This is an impossibly hard boss for all but the hardest of the hard core players.

A simple solution of having a nerfed heroic dungeon we could cue for would solve this problem!

[Jape-silver-hand (Jape)]

You get that in 8.2.5.

And that boss is a joke.

[Zackin-moon-guard]

Because as much as you and a big chunk of the playerbase pretends otherwise this dungeon is brand new, and not everyone runs +15s for fun. Not everyone has watched 12 hours of guides. This place his hard. Really hard.

Not the guy you responded to, but…

My group doesn’t do M+ basically ever. Pushing even 10’s is rare, and usually when we get together we do ~5-7’s. A few of us play together regularly, but almost never all 5 of us.

We were playing alts in the 400-410 range, with an odd-ball group of Guardian/Disc, Frost Mage, Sin Rogue, and Balance druid. Pretty much all of us were out of our comfort zone. Enchants, gems, consumables? We flasked off the start, that’s about it - most of these chars were fresh 120s right around the start of 8.2.

None of us had any prior knowledge of the dungeon (other than avoiding the boss the Aerial Oppression Unit was above). We did not look up guides, did not ever even look at the dungeon journal.

2.5 hours later, including a long disconnect, several pet battles, and sight-seeing for screenshots, we cleared it. Most bosses were killed on the second or third attempt. First attempt was always “we have no idea what is about to happen!”, and despite that we almost one-shot King Mechagon and in fact we might have even one-shot the boss before him. Grunker was the only boss that felt overtuned. K.U.-J.0. feels… off, and slightly bugged, but very easy once we found out how to work-around the weird LoS issue.

A few trash packs felt disproportionately more difficult than the rest of the dungeon. Most of that was also mitigated by 1-2 CCs.

This is only the first week of the dungeon which is intended to be a step up from regular M0 in both difficulty and time-investment. If you pug it with people who might not even know what their interrupt does, fail to learn or teach the fight to others, and get upset after you’ve died more than 0 times, yeah - you’re not going to have a good time. This dungeon, as it currently stands, is not for you then.

Improve yourself, research the fights, come back with friends who listen to instructions, wait until the community as a whole is more familiar with the dungeon, or wait until it inevitably is released as a 2-part Heroic dungeon. It’s even conveniently split into two distinct sections with 4 bosses each already. It’s coming.

A few very specific parts need very minor tweaks. That’s all.

[Zackin-moon-guard]

Oh, just in case people don’t know, the K.U.-J.0. boss drops a cloak that can be turned in to Jani for the “Trashmaster” title. No quest pop-up indicates you can do so (and you have access to the title just from putting the cloak on, but it goes away when you take it off), but it’s a permanent title once you turn it in.

If this is true, this is the most important and insightful contribution to this thread.

I hope it’s true.

[Lokaa-wyrmrest-accord]

It is true. My main has the permanent title!

[Arkelias-moon-guard]

I didn’t even call for nerfs so I’m not sure what that whole lecture was about. I was just saying the place was hard, because it is. I responded to someone who said the trash was easy. It is not.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

So by you doing it with pugs must mean the dungeon is perfectly fine and everyone in the entire game can do it with pugs.

Of course that’s what you mean, all these posts about the place being over tuned must all be wrong because you can do it.

Of course, didn’t ya know that everyone has the same skill set when it comes to wow. We all are Mythic+ world champions, we all clear mythic raids with in hours after released. If one person can do it anyone can.

[Jape-silver-hand (Jape)]

Ha.

This dungeon has mechanics that have been in game since Wrath. You don’t to do much besides read cast bars and move out of circles.

[Zackin-moon-guard]

It applies to everyone advocating for nerfs.

I should have picked a better quote, then.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

This dungeon has mechanics that have been in game since Wrath. You don’t to do much besides read cast bars and move out of circles.

See everyone can do it.

[Jape-silver-hand (Jape)]

Yep, exactly. Glad we can agree on that!

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

Yep, I cleared it all by myself last week, so every one should be able to. Twice even, once while naked.

[Andrasté-alexstrasza]

Dungeon was easy, beat it first day.

Don’t see how people are having issues.

[Jape-silver-hand (Jape)]

The requirements are a super low bar. The OP is ridiculous.

Just wait for 8.2.5 if you want to afk through it.

[Eret-hyjal (Eret)]

(Looks at who posted the topic)

Yep it’s Sunday.