I have never seen a mythic zero dungeon like this. Honestly, it felt like a mythic +15.
The Trash: Insane. Very hard trash seems to be your new game standard. Why?
The Bosses: Wipefest! I don’t even know where to start so I will not go into detail. But my group, ilevel 400-410 never even got close to completing any encounter.
After many wipes on trash and countless boss wipes we called it.
Blizzard, this dungeon is ridiculous. To call this a mythic zero is a slap in the face and furthermore not giving us an option to have a heroic version, with group finder is yet again another slap in the face!
Blizzard, your design choices of late are nuts. What were you thinking here?
Please nerf this overtuned disaster of a dungeon at once. In addition, add a heroic version so we can easily get a group through group finder-one of your greatest tools-and finish the quest!
I have no problem with you making high level, mythic plus, esport level difficulty content.
But I have a big problem with you doing this for a mythic zero where there is a required quest not to mention all sorts of recipes and whatnot hidden in the dungeon!
I think this is exactly what a lot of people were asking for. A challenge that wasn’t GO GO GO timer based like M+.
It’s difficult and some of the drops might be relatively underwhelming, especially considering Emissaries drop 415 as well, but it’s the nature of the beast. If you want relevant drops it’s going to need to be harder and require more effort than a pug with no experience going in and ROFLStomping the instance.
Casuals demanding harder dungeon content that is like TBC, without the timers putting pressure on you… They get it, then they complain its challenging.
boss number four is nearly mathematically impossible because of the complicated puzzle just to kill the boss. you need a phd to play this game anymore?
the alarm bots will always get you no matter what you do and thats if you even get to the final platform, which requires the precision and steady hand of a surgeon
Explain to why why we cannot have a nerfed heroic version to finish the quest for those who do not want to participate in this crazy overtuned disaster of a dungeon?
I have no problem with it as long as the drops are reduced to 400-410 and at least some of the pets and mounts are removed. Honestly, not sure what the reasoning behind not launching with normal and heroic version is.
Didn’t they do this before with Cathedral in Legion? To be honest, I don’t have much time for dungeons since the mythic+ system with its myriad affixes that are designed for 3 rogues, a druid and maybe a DK. They’ve ruined dungeoneering in my mind.
It’s very doable with fairly competent players that at least know mechanics well enough and manage to do what they can to keep up. I was in a PuG that almost 1 shot the first 4 bosses. Yet a group before that I was in couldn’t even down one boss and we were wiping over and over to trash.
Yes we want a challenge that isn’t all GO GO GO, but we also want a challenge that doesn’t take 2 hours, has underwhelming loot drops and only at an iLVL that we can find elsewhere with less than half the effort.
Because as much as you and a big chunk of the playerbase pretends otherwise this dungeon is brand new, and not everyone runs +15s for fun. Not everyone has watched 12 hours of guides. This place his hard. Really hard.
And the drops sucked for my group. People didn’t have fun. It was like Kara in Legion, minus the HOLY CRAP level of drops. We were so excited in Kara.
This place? Oh hey look, another trash pack that brings the tank to 20%, and he has to pop multiple defensives. I wonder what it dropped? 3 gold. Noice.
That’s what happens when you pug, you not only end up with players who have zero knowledge on the place because they done zero reading up on it, but you get tanks who charge head first, wipe and leave.
You than get healers who think it will be easy street and pull 10K HPS while constantly complaining it is too hard and DPS who pull 5K.
Pugs who join other players and think it is going to be easy street are the worst, just because this is M0 does not mean it is going to be easy.
I agree. There should be one. I refuse to step foot in any mythic dungeon. They are just not fun. I don’t want to be a esports hero. I just want to see the content.