Hi,
I decided to write this here as wasn’t sure which section this would actually be appropriate in. I know the in-game service says characters on PvE servers cannot be transferred to PvP servers, and that Blizzard’s official reason for it when Classic first launched was because they don’t want people to ruin the economy of the PvP server by allowing PvE characters to transfer over to PvP servers. I believe that issue is arbitrary at this point though. Reasons I feel they are arbitrary at this point are:
1.) PvP players can transfer to PvE servers, and with the servers in Classic TBC right now being either Horde OR Alliance dominant and there only being like MAYBE one server that has something even close to true balance, the restriction is one-sided as it’s all basically PvE now.
2.) The introduction of the Dark Portal Pass kind of already screwed with the economy. More than allowing cross-mode server transfers would anyways. Especially since prior to, and after the official launch of TBC:C, everyone and their mother suggested spending the level boost that came with the Dark Portal Pass on a Druid for basically early, free, Flight Form. Not to mention all the other things the Dark Portal Pass provided.
I could list more reasons, but I think two is good enough in my opinion. With that being said however, I am perfectly fine with paying the $25 USD transfer fee to get it, so I’m not here asking for a freebie. I would just like the ability to play with both my brother and my only friend who are both on a pvp server, and the thought of having to re-roll from scratch is a total motivation killer, ya’know?
At this point the restriction is just some lame, arbitrary rule to try and prevent an issue Blizzard themselves created with the Dark Portal Pass, among other things. The only thing really that’s stopping you guys from doing it is laziness. I mean it’s not like PvP can’t transfer to PvE, so the system is in place it’s just not unlocked for both ways. And the system itself is automated so it’s not like each case requires someone to manually transfer something.
Or make every server a PvE server since nobody wants to do world PvP this day and age, as made evident by the fact everyone just flocks to whatever server their preferred faction is dominant in.
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Since your claim is that no-one wants PVP, and you can already transfer PVP to PVE… what is the problem here?
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The problem is apparently you don’t read. Guess I gotta break it down in simple terms for people.
Main on PvE server. Friend and family on PvP server. Restriction is pointless.
Since no-one wants to PVP, why aren’t they transferring to PVE?
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Everyone wants to go to Mega servers that have 20-30k worth of people instead of the 9k in the PvE servers. Peeps gonna go where the majority is and that’s the PvP mega servers that’s actually PvE servers kekw. Just release Warmode and be done with it.
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Why spend 25 dollars transferring from one pve server to another? God you’re such a contrarian the people you surround yourself with must get annoyed on a daily basis. Not like opening PvE to PvP server transfers, or merging all the servers with how low the over-all game population is at this point into one or two giant mega-servers would hurt anything.
And plenty of people want to pvp. I only play this game for the PvP. I love BG’s and Arenas. I love world PvP. However, most people do not enjoy doing something like world pvp unless their victory goes absolutely uncontested. Everyone wants to be the one who clapped cheeks, nobody wants to be the one who got clapped, and the risk that a fair fight might bring is too much for most to bear. And so that is why world PvP is a shadow of it’s former self, and why the restriction is arbitrary.
Yes PLEASE.
It doesn’t matter where people want to go or not. If people have friends on a PvP server, but their character is stuck on a PvE server, it just plain sucks.
New phase will be a great time for people coming back to the game to catch up and letting them transfer where they want to will help.
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You would have to do this even if they opened up PVE to PVP transfers…
I’m not a contrarian, your argument is the swiss cheese of proposals.
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They should do this but block PvE transfers to Grobbulus.
Omg please, for the love of all that is holy remove this stupid restriction already… what are you waiting for, most pvp servers are basically single faction pve servers anyway. Give players a freedom to move around.
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You’re deliberately missing the entire point of the post. You even completely missed the entire point behind my reply to you that you quoted. I refuse to believe someone can be that dumb, so I am going to assume you’re doing it on purpose.
And my singular proposal doesn’t have any holes in it. It’s very quite simple. Allow people on PvE servers to transfer to PvP servers like how people on PvP servers can transfer to PvE ones. And the reasons why the restriction is there in the first place is no longer applicable as they completely invalidated their entire reasoning for the restriction with the implementation of the Dark Portal Pass. I then went on to give the example that with each server being either Horde dominant or Alliance dominant, every server at this point could go out and farm for materials and items without having to worry about any massive harassment from the opposite faction, and Blizzard’s claim that allowing people on PvE servers to transfer to PvP servers “might” ruin the economy of any PvP server they choose to transfer to. With faction imbalance and the dark portal pass, that is simply an arbitrary restriction at that point.
I’m not really sure how any more simple or clear I can make it for you. If you still fail to see the point after reading this then I’m just going to assume you’re being a contrarian just because you want to be argumentative and I’ll just ignore you from that point onward.
So you can level from the safety of a PVE server and then transfer to a PVP server and gank lowbies?
That’s not how this works. Leveling on a PVP server is a rite of passage.
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What threat is there in leveling on a PvP server when every server is either owned by the horde or the alliance completely? Your argument is invalid. You can’t apply the same thinking to how things were back in vanilla and OG TBC because it’s not nearly the same experience today as it was way back when.
Take Benediction for example. It has nearly 22k alliance players and not even 1k horde players. You might legitimately have a better chance at winning 50 bucks on a scratcher than you would encountering a horde player in the open world. Or take Faerlina for another example. 17-18k horde players to like 90ish alliance players. And the vast majority of servers are skewed in similar fashion.
Also, the whole “leveling from safety on a PvE server” is completely invalidated by two OTHER things as well. The first being the Dark Portal Pass. You can pay to skip the leveling process for the most part. Yeah you still have to go through the outlands, but on a faction dominant server the only people who would ever have to worry about that are people who didn’t do their research and boosted a horde on an alliance or vice-versa. But even then they have the freedom to transfer to ANY server they want. The second being that everybody these days just levels from the safety of a dungeon anyways. Sitting afk inside a dungeon while some max level takes their gold and does the leveling process for them. You’re a true hero, alt-tabbing inside the safety of a dungeon to watch videos while someone else does your work for you. The unspeakable horrors you must of faced running through a contested area with a max level player to protect you. I don’t know how you do it.
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If there’s no threat to leveling on the PVP server, why don’t you do that instead of asking for transfers to open?
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It’s not about the struggle or lackthereof. It’s about wanting to play with friends and/or family but being marooned on a specific server. I’m sorry you don’t have friends to make it matter to you, but I do and it does.
So then level on the server your friends are playing on?
Why are you acting like this is unheard of in an MMORPGs? What is stopping you from playing with your friends besides your own hang ups?
I never said it was unheard of. I said the restriction is arbitrary. I don’t get why some of you are so against the idea. It’s not like it effects any of you what I choose to spend my 25 dollars on or what server I choose to play on.
You’re the same type of person who whines in games like Elden Ring and the like that someone found a strong weapon or spell early on and didn’t strugglebus their way through the game the same way you did and so they’re bad because of it, like the way that person chose to play completely invalidated your own personal experience. Me wanting to transfer from one server to another to play with my buddies doesn’t invalidate your personal experience. It’s your personal experience, nobody can have it but you. Get over it.
Easier to gear on a PvE server and bring an unfair advantage to PvP servers…which only applied to pre-resilience WoW. Currently, it is pretty stupid to not allow it.
While we’re at it…enable cross-account transfers for TBC Classic!
Another post that decides Grobbulus doesn’t exist.
50/50 come level here and tell me how safe you feel
The OCE servers also say hello.
I never said Grobbulus doesn’t exist. If you notice in my OP I even stated there there may be one server in the region that has anything close to true faction balance. I mean if you’re so bent on supporting Grobbulus then why not make that connection?
Btw it’s not 50/50. The horde still outnumber alliance something like 48% alli to 52% horde. Very close to perfect balance yes, but not 50/50.