Open up Faction Transfers Horde => Alliance on Select PVP Servers Only

My god.

Now I fully understand the hurt, the anguish you must be going through.

While character Transfers and the like may only be wishful thinking, you have my deepest sympathy.

Pink hair? Pig tails? Oh dear

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You knew there would be a huge imbalance near the start of classic , and now you cried about AV and Blizz made changes for you , now you wanna cry more lol , sorry but you made you mess you can live in it. either reroll go to retail or quit.

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Well if that were the case, the vast majority of horde would reroll alliance because of “athstetics”

:grin:

I promise you zero horde are interested in playing on the alliance, you all cry and whine WAY too much

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What if I told you not everybody wanted to be a human, baby human, medium human or extra large purple human with long ears?

i actually have both horde and alliance toons, its just that my first horde toon is my main and my other alliance toons i raid log + play with RL friends when they’re on, it just sees much less playtime.

I’d agree with you.

But what if I told you that it isn’t some crazy coincidence that everyone who has an interest in pvp in this game just happened to roll horde because of “looks”?

I agree 100% but the reverse would also have to happen on places like heartseeker.

Do people exist that chose horde solely for pvp racials?

Sure.

But I think you’re overestimating the severity of it.

If all things were more equal with regards too

  • capability of the alliance playerbase in pvp (they seem indifferent about it) This is evident by the win rate, which if you suggest the “all things being equal” should be more towards a 50 percent win/loss. It’s not.
  • the faction imbalance on pvp servers
  • the threads and their topics. Generally horde players want to encourage more pvp in battlegrounds. Alliance threads are more complaining about map imbalances and the like.

All things are clearly not equal and I’m sorry if you think that “aesthetics” was the driving force as to why most pvp players picked the horde faction on pvp servers.

What I find more embarrassing is the lack of admitting to such things. Just own it. If you were as clever as you claim to be at all things pvp then clearly you wouldn’t pick the weaker racial tool kits for pvp.

What gives you any inclination that a horde would want to play a sissy boy Ally toon?

I see what you are trying to do… and its noteworthy that you are trying… but this is just a non starter.

I don’t have to do anything. The proof is in the pudding.

The results and attitudes by those who picked both factions tells the entire story. Beyond that it doesn’t take much sleuthing to see how things are playing out.

Denying the obvious is getting embarrassing though! But keep going, I like a good laugh.

Oh and should you ask. I don’t pvp. There are far FAR better games for pvp then this one. But if I were to want to PVP, I’d probably have picked orc for the passive and the small zerker 2 min cooldown. So I’d be orc warrior.

I picked alliance because I did vanilla as a horde undead priest. I picked Warrior because it was as far removed from priest as I could think of. And I picked human because for PVE the bonus to swords/maces was the deciding factor. Aesthetics has nothing to do with my decisions at this point.

See? It’s not hard to admit what drives our decisions. The game is 15 years old now. I’ve pretty much been every race of both factions at this point.

[1] How many Horde players would become Alliance toons…permanently? It’s poor design to assume “oh, everyone EXCEPT me will change”. To a game designer there is no “me”.

[2] Long-term (game designers think long-term, not “this week”) this can easily be abused:

Want to level up a new character to 60 on a PvP server? Level 1-60 as the hugely-dominating Horde: it’s almost like a PvE realm, you won’t get ganked very much. THEN at 60 switch to the other faction for faster queue times.

It’s similar to the “let us change classes at 60” or “let us level to 60 on a PVE server, then switch to PVP”. It is way too easy to abuse.

I agree, Horde should be allowed to transfer to Alliance and for one reason only. To prevent or mitigate the people who quit over this. Blizzard is keeping a close eye on this. We can all argue why it’s good or bad idea. But when millions of dollars are at risk, that will be the deciding factor like anything else Blizzard does.

Not that I would transfer. It has nothing to do with racials or being the dominant faction. There’s more alliance on the server I’m at and that’s fine. I’ve been Horde since the game first came out and have never had interest in playing Alliance in any xpac.

Doesn’t have to be equal, but if it were as severe of an advantage as you’re crying, not a single person would roll alliance.

But they do. So stop crying.

Naw.

We don’t want Hordies. They’re smelly.

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Is that your best counter argument?

Bud. Statistics. If all things are equal then over a large demographic, things would…EQUAL out. All things being equal.

Are things working out equally? I mean the data is right there. We can go look at server populations together on ironforge to see who favored what.

Sorry friend. You don’t have an argument against data.

Lmao, sorry “friend” but some random website that draws statistics from raid logs is in absolutely no way reliable to provide an argument for one way or the other of population balance. You have an idea, not solid evidence. Until blizzard provides official data, I’m going to continue to tell you to stop crying and get over yourself.

On some level, I feel that allowing either a free faction transfer on unbalanced servers, or server transfers could be beneficial. I don’t think that it should only be “get the horde off this server.” The Alliance-heavy servers might benefit from going the other way.

I’d also suggest that it should be a “limited” basis, and with restrictions to further disruptions.

Heartseeker is Alliance-heavy, and ganking by Horde happened quite often (and still does.)