Maybe they took a page from Brann and learned how to throw those red vials?
Yes, I did, you’re just not processing the information.
A 603 ilvl tank can do them in 12 minutes.
I can do them much faster as a tank spec than a healer spec at equal item levels at item levels 20+ lower then the recommendation.
The recommended ilvl is a joke. You can take a seat if that’s what you’re going to lean on. You can’t apply that recommendation to healers when it clearly doesn’t apply to tanks.
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Except tanks can do it, and quite a few dps can do it too.
11s aren’t hard for the most part. At least not what I’ve picked up from my guild. My experiences differ though because I’m a bloody terrible healer I guess.
Oh I get the information I’m just using your dismissive language back at you.
“Healers can’t solo content far below the target ilvl as well as tanks far below the target ilvl” is not a real problem. If you can’t do the content when you meet the requirements, you have a problem.
Delves cap at 11. It doesn’t matter if someone else can do 11s sooner or faster than you, it matters that you can do it once you’re properly equipped, and that you did it yourself and didn’t afk while Bran did all the work.
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The two best healers right now are the comfiest in Delves, coincidence? No, it isn’t. Because the meta design for healers going forward is dps while healing simultaneously, Blizzard is just struggling badly with this right now.
The healer DPS thing might be the biggest struggle Blizzard is going to have to face in a long time, probably since removing stances.
They’re gonna have to swallow the homogenization pill. Even Druid got that new talent that basically heals them when they Ferocious Bite in cat, it’s in the Resto tree. Delves would be a PiTA and practically undoable without that talent.
No one’s running out healers because most of us have dps specs and aren’t unmalleable degenerates
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You’re leaning on a 658 gear suggestion for content that drops 639 gear and 649 once a week.
You’re doing this because you have no real logical argument for why the content should be faceroll for one role but a long boring slog for another.
The entire reason they added tank Brann was to solve that exact problem. Healers in S1 had a slow boring time in delves compared to the other roles. Pre-nerf Brann was a solution to that. They knee-jerk nerfed it because it was popular, not because it was significantly more powerful than what tanks could also do at similar or even lower item levels.
Terrible argument when discussing something that was specifically added so that healers didn’t have to swap specs to do delves in a non-awful amount of time.
Sure. And healers still can too. It was the “easily” part that was the problem.
It’s easiest and fastest for tanks to do it. Run healer brann, run over a potion occasionally and do a dps rotation.
Particularly laughable for tanks. Same as S1.
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On Guardian and VDH I just run DPS Brann, you don’t need the healing so you might as well take the execute.
crimson vial is clearly op.
I haven’t actually done a delve yet this season.
I liked running Brann as a DPS on my healer monk and wondered how it would compare to running him as a tank, if it’s worth the DPS loss.
Looks like now, not so much!
I honestly don’t feel like I am being treated hostile by Blizzard.
I just got done doing two Tier 8 delves tonight. I got to Tier 9 before the Tank Brann changes.
I did Disc (which I have about 6 hours of experience in), I am ilevel 626. Tier 8s are recommended ~636+. I am under ilevel for sure.
Brann’s setup was:
Level 47
1/4 Impact Conversion Matrix
3/4 Three Dimensional Bioprinter
I did Waterworks first. I died due to one bad pull that had 4 fugnal mob, a rare that agro’d, and two elite fungals. I had all abilities on CD due to trying to “panic save” Brann.
The rest of the time in that Delve I didn’t die. I had to switch mentalities like I was doing an M+ dungeon with an under-geared tank instead of a heroic dungeon. So aggressive use of Psychic Scream (which does work on the Hobgoblins and elite goblin enemies), PI, and keeping a mob Dominated at all times (usually an elite until you can’t dominate that same one). I gave myself a “timer” with trying to maximize my Impact Conversion Matrix buff and dominated enemy to keep a flow going.
No wipes after that. Brann ate the dirt a few times, but a well timed Psychic Scream and just keeping my health up until Bran got back up was the trick.
By the way, I am using Psychic Scream version that causes the enemies to stand still in terror… to prevent Brann from chasing anyone.
Did a Tier 8 Sinkhole after that. I usually die multiple times in that Delve. No wipes, Brann died three times. Two times involving Elite Goblins and surprise shark agro… but using tools helped. The third time he died on the boss… but I easily survived due to a dominated add, Fade, and just keeping myself up.
It was less stressful to me when I swapped mentalities. Both delves took less than 20 minutes each to complete.
I understand that “muh tanks” have it easier in Delves. It’s just the way they’re programmed and how tanks are built. Even so, I still don’t feel like Healer’s are being screwed here. Delves are still easier than low keys.
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“why are healers expected to DPS”
“tanks being immortal makes my job as a healer feel useless”
“healing checks need to be higher so i feel less bored”
discourse from healers ive heard in the last 12 months alone
pay your penance for your short sighted brethren
Everybody see what I’m talking about?
Total hostility.
if the old days, rogue makes some bandages, uses on other players. It is now a healer. Not an ideal healer, but it healz none the less.
Blizzard doesn’t hate you because they nerfed something wildly overtuned. Stop being such a baby.
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Defend healers against what? Are you talking about the Brann nerfs as proof of something against healers?
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defend them against potatoes.
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Blizzard clearly hates healers.