If you choose the loot specialization then any and all drops should conform
no matter what to your specialization choice!
Yes yes yes sure sometimes minor stuff unrelated to armor can drop fine but
if a drop of a paladin type armor drops and then yes prot armor type should only drop! Tired of not being able to progress fast enough with no stats relating to tanking.
This has been this way for awhile now. I had a bad full of 2 handers at one point on protection pallies.
I’m convinced there’s a pattern.
If I’m in MM, I will get my BM bis (or something good for BM). If I’m in BM I will get my MM bis.
All stats are related to tanking, and not even in “more threat” ways.
I assume you’re talking about, what, Crit?
Crit increases parry for Prot Paladin, which also increases the frequency of Grand Crusader Procs, plus, being a tank with strong self healing, it obviously affects that.
Strength is a primary stat so it’s not like there’s a choice there, but it also gives Parry, and the armor bonus from SotR scales with Strength, so it’s defensive as well.
There are certain types of drops that loot spec does not effect. make sure you check your loot tables in raids and dungeons.
So all stats are good for everybody, which is why nobody needs to sim everything?
I always thought it was bizarre that when I complained I was getting mostly crit-haste gear on my tanks, which was a gigantic damage nerf over the versatility-mastery I was supposed to be stacking (and guardians don’t need a gigantic damage nerf) and made me really squishy, people who subscribe to premium simming site services and wouldn’t dream of using the wrong stats themselves would lecture me that every stat is good.
This isn’t classic anymore, Dorothy.
In any case, I have a caster who has gotten 3 offhands in a row. Doesn’t even have a main hand.
They have to sim because any stat can be good for anybody. If mastery was never better than crit for you, you would know what’s better and not need to sim.
Therefore, gear of any stat combo must drop for you, as any stat could be good. You wouldnt know until you sim. And even that is based on different kinds of fights.
People put to much weight behind stat priority, it’s not always absolute. Sometimes crit can be better for one fight and mastery on another.
It can also change by seasons or diminishing returns. There’s more to it than “prot pally wants these two stats all the time.”
But the “more to it” I have heard many times in the forum is "you should use crit-haste gear because every stat is good. And no, it’s not. There is no time that it will feel better to be doing 20% less damage and getting wrecked by mobs than 28% versatility.
What I have actually noticed is that as a guardian I get far more crit haste than versatility mastery gear, while as a priest who wants crit haste I get mostly versatility mastery gear, which I don’t think is an accident.
I think that’s likely to be confirmation bias. We tend to see the data that supports how we feel. Have you been gathering drop numbers? Even then, your sample size as one player would be tiny.
It’s likely you’ve simply hit a string in a random system. That’s pretty natural over time, and the human brain likes to find patterns and extrapolate. Too bad it’s actually pretty bad at intuiting the reality of statistics. It’s a phenomon we see in a lot of non gaming places.
I don’t think so. My priest spent 40k nethershards @ 400 per piece of gear trying to get crit haste gear for mage tower and got nothing usable.
That would seem to be an outlier, I grant you.
Could it be those nethershard items are no longer in the pool? Does cloth with that stat combo still drop for others or is it possible all cloth pants, for instance, have a set combo?
Basically it is the same gear with (supposedly) random stats. But no, I haven’t tried a warlock or mage because would they have no use for that gear, while she had a lot of nethershards leftover from Legion.
I got polearms to drop for my BM in lfr. It was set to loot BM gear. Those who ask were it at click portrait and scroll down to loot options. This is not the only places this happens to me.
It’s not an accident, you’re right. It’s you seeing patterns where there really isn’t any. Random is random. People’s brains want to see patterns.
How are you sure about that with no data?
Because I know what rng loot table means and how it works and Im familiar with people’s propensity to do what I described.
I have a friend who needed an int weapon and he was healing instances with loot set to resto and got two different agility two-handers. He got frustrated and flipped his loot specialization to feral and the next weapon he got was int. Coincidence? Maybe but in 9.1 all my weapons matched my specialization.
In wow you don’t choose your spec. RNG choices it.
Hey rogue…here is a sword! Hell have 2.
Umm can I have daggers since I wanted to be sub/sin?
Nope…try outlaw.
Outlaw ofc get daggers. so you respec sin/sub for a bit.
WOT? you mean you DONT like getting conduits for specs you’ll NEVER play?
Loot spec doesn’t mean you’ll get gear with stats that your sim says you want more of.
How is WoW supposed to know what stat you want more of? Sims change all the time.