Has to do with a topic that is totally forbidden in the wow community: faction personality. this will “trigger” the sensitive, so if you have a fainting-couch constitution, you will get angry just reading it.
When wow-clone warhammer online came out, it was filled almost entirely by ex-horde vanilla players disgruntled at the “Good” races having all the fun. faction imbalance was so bad you could not get groups on order, and chaos was so bloated they could not do anything as there were no order to take back world pvp objectives. horrifyingly toxic community, and these people eventually came back to wow.
When wow-clone the old republic came out, it was filled almost entirely by ex-horde wrath players disgruntled at the “Good” races having all the fun. faction imbalance was so bad you could not get groups easily light side, and pvp matches were filled with AT LEAST 60-70% sith sorcerors. horrifyingly toxic community, and these people eventually came back to wow.
Here is the joke: wow was was at its peak when these two games came out. not only was it fun to be alliance, but all the toxic players were absent for a few weeks/months.
the game allowing faction diversity by not actively punishing alliance for merely existing as the foil to blizzard’s pet faction made the game more enjoyable. Even better, the game was at its strongest when “GOGOGOGO RACIALSLUR HUEHUEHUEHUE” players attracted to the bad guys were sent elsewhere instead of being placated every time the alliance gets even the slightest boon.
I am also fully aware that the people who know exactly what I am talking about don’t even play wow anymore. Most of the alliance players of old are grown up or on to different styles of games, and the horde players disgruntled with bfa are off turning ff14 into an edgelord cesspool.
Just a thought.
EDIT, here are some “tl;dr” from later in the thread:
I tried reading this like three times… I’m sure there’s something in here I want to agree with, but I’m getting lost in between “faction identity” and “huehuehue”.
I know you’re not trying to suggest that Horde are all Brazilians… but I think this is a lesson on burying the lead.
Is this now the default response for when people say something contrary to your views? Threaten them with sedation and false diagnoses of mental illnesses.
Thank you for also making my point for me though.
reading my post helps. it is in plain english. I suppose it requires to to actually admit there is a problem in the first place though.
I dabbled in vanilla but ive mainly been here since TBC and for the longest time the Alliance was considered the faction of children.
Of course the pendulum has swung many times since then and now the Horde is the more popular faction so you’re guaranteed to see a greater variety of player archetypes
Second part is to -of course- then actually know what the problem is. I did just that in my op, it is just you seemed to have glossed over that on purpose in order to attack.
Only by a very specific subset of the game population. Very good example of the toxicity I am mentioning. This game’s peak was not accidentally when there was a “release valve” for that toxicity.
I miss warhammer online. Forming a shieldwall with other tanks as the massive blob of chaos break down the gates and holding the line as they get ground into mincemeat by all the aoes being flung out.
There were some interesting mechanics in that game, it was just not very good in every other way. mostly due to community of a very specific kind of wow player that was driven away from wow (making wow better).
unfortunately, that specific kind of wow player is seemingly all we have left, therefore the decline.
Also, I suppose this is an answer to another poster here who missed the clearly-stated point.
Not really, you just don’t want to look in the mirror. In other games we have “special terms” for wow players, and I should not repeat them here. it’s not all wow players like this, but I do know what half of the playerbase they are talking about.
I can’t name a single person in game who pays attention to the story. I mean that alliance could still raid AND pvp well, even without premades. you got to rp as the clean, good guys (by metzen standards anyways) and still succeed in-game.
losing with ‘grace’ is still losing. And I’m trying to figure what part of the Alliance is the good guy? The inept part, the naive part or the complacent enabler part.
