Okay guys I was haveing a conversation with a friend and i thought it was great time. Picture this: TOTAL WAR! The Alliance and Hord have collapsed as complete insain violence sweeps across Azeroth. Its a new era and its every race for themselves in a desperate FIGHT TO THE DEATH!!!
All right nerds: Who wins? And why?
RULES -
Time period is the “new era” (No one race “rules the world” the races are all fair game but the black empire and other full world spanning empires at the height of their power are disqualified)
Every single race is fair game playable or otherwise (excludeing god races like titans and guardians the like)
(Edit rule) in the interest of fairness we need to split up the races as much as possible as in the separate type/kingdoms of elves/humans/trolls/undeads/ect will count as their own unique races.
There was NO warning or time to prepare.
Lore rules only. We are compareing races in by lore only. Past that ANYTHING GOES - high population, high individual power, superpowered characters, advanced technology and magical artifacts/spells and anything else you can think of as long as its racial herritage. Its no holds barred SLAUGHTER!!!
BONUS - Who goes extinct first?
*Thanks everybody for your opinions and for haveing fun with me.
The Alliance Races are powerful, with demigods in their ranks. So I think one of their races would be the winner.
The kaldorei have experience with a world spanning empire - they had one before. If they have Malfurion, Illidan, and Tyrande, maybe even Azshara and her Naga, I think they stand the best chance.
They lost the War of Thorns, but they were against various Horde Races, caught by surprise, and their army was on the other side of the globe. And they still put up a good fight.
The Eredar as a unit (Draenei, Manari, Broken, and Lightforged) would be a tough match, with their spacecraft. And if they can rally Legion remnants to their cause.
The Humans have Jaina, so that puts them in contention.
I think the only Horde Races that would stand a chance is if the Sindorei and Shaldorei team up. And I say they stand a chance, not that they would win.
As far as who dies first, maybe the Tauren. They just don’t have the cops, and we’re almost wiped out by centaurs until Thrall saved them. The Gnomes and the Forsaken might go not too long after. The Gnomes have tech and can lean into Mechanization of things get tough…. But I dont see them lasting long. The Forsaken also are on the back foot, and without Sylvanas or Valkyr, things would look grim.
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I think I’d give this one to the Arathi. There’s an entire Empire across the ocean, one that hasn’t been whittled down by repeat world-ending threats and wars for nearly four decades, one with technology on par with Dwarves/Gnomes, Magic on par with elves, and faith on par with Humans.
As for the first to die… since this is races, not factions, I’d say the Void Elves. There are so few that they’d be easy to eliminate with a surprise attack, and even if that failed, everyone else would kill them on sight as well. Their only option would be to abandon Azeroth and live on Telogrus, assuming Telogrus isn’t destroyed in this hypothetical so that they HAVE to partake in this conflict on Azeroth.
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If they get included as kaldorei then all elves count as kaldorei
are DKs a race? with lot of corpses they are always the winners if not
is there some inter race war? like amani vs zandalari? if not the elves and the trolls unite with each faction of themselves, it will be like primal azeroth where elves fought the trolls but without the well its another story, but trolls vs elves is for sure
i dont know how fast orc reproduce, cause they are strong too, but they have been in so many wars i dont know how many of them are there
I love it! Thanks you all for your contributions!
Heres a little bit to clarify
I would count Malfurion, Illidan and Tyrande all for the night elves in this war though not their world empire (at the time) but it is a solid testament to their power.
We have to split up the various types of elves and trolls for it to be fair as well as the various subsets of the rest of the races. I would give azarah to the naga and i would split up the rest of the elven contenders by type as unique races. Same with the humans and the trolls.
I would also split up the eredar as in the original drenei are their own thing and the corrupted and light enhanced drenei each as another. Unfortunately the eradar cant have sergeras but they can have the the larger amout of the deamons as a race. Which makes them very, very powerful for sure but not a game winner by its self I dont think as the races of azeroth did defeat them on their own planet and warlocks of other races can seize control of deamons for a time.
Really good point bringing up the undead! I love that. I think they have to count as forsaken deffinitaly count. I think we have to go by “organized” undead to make it a race because undead as a whole are mindless and not really a threat. I would however think that means Arthas and his northrend scourge have to be a race by themselves which would certainly include some DKS. They however would be SERPERATE from the forsaken undead with sylvanas which might also include some DKs. I would also make DKS only compatable with the undead races becuse they are undead themselves. This all makes the Arthas controlled undead faction VERY powerful but other races could seize control of undead for a time with necromancy or other turn undead magic or they could just kill Arthas himself and the whole army would fall apart. Hopefully that balances things a bit.
Is King Mechagon an unfair choice? It took an intervention by the Bronze Dragonflight to rat out his secrets from an alternate timeline for us to enter the city. 
The Horde has the disgusting combo package of telemancy and sappers.
Dwarves and dragons should win. Naga and night elves are next, thanks to Malfurion and Azshara.
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I quibble with this.
Azshara was the ruler of the kaldorei empire.
Other elven races have distinguished themselves from the kaldorei . The Blood Elves, Void Elves, and Shaldorei.
But Azshara has sat on the throne of the kaldorei empire, commanded them, and ruled them. She is pretty singular in that regard.
If it came down to some race war, the Queen of the kaldorei empire - namely Azshara- makes sense to be a part of the kaldorei
Which is why I see the kaldorei with a big leg up on the cabinet of survivors
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Not in ways that make the kaldorei empire not part of their history, nor where they come from, and so on.
In a world where azshara is kaldorei literally all elves are kaldorei.
The quibling is semantics.
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Precisely in ways that were not part of the kaldorei empire. They took on other names, bubbled themselves off, sailed away, cast adrift…
That aside, the kaldorei of the kaldorei empire remain.
Your statement is nonsense.
Azshara ruled the kaldorei as a kaldorei. That is plain.
Not by the empire they weren’t. If the empire held on they would still be kaldorei.
Your statement is a complete misunderstanding of the lore.
Azshara ruled the kaldorei as a kaldorei. That is plain.
Azshara ruled all elves. Not just the modern kaldorei.
The only way you could make Azshara’s empire not part of all elvish ancestry is by some absurd sleight of hand and probably no small amount of faction brain. Legion has you deal with some of Valeera’s family from the imperial era.
There isn’t a discontinuity in the lines of descent, there’s no break, there are still families that cover all the various divides of elvenkind. Shal’dorei culture in particular cannot be described as so impossibly removed from imperial culture without eliciting a laugh. It’s absurd.
Therefore Azshara either counts for the naga alone or for all elves.
Oh my god.
Your best response is some hypothetical mumbo jumbo that never was?
I didn’t expect better from you.
I almost wish I could say I expected better… but I knew you had nothing.
She was the Queen of the kaldorei. Not all elves are kaldorei, any longer.
And Azshara was the Queen of the kaldorei.
It is quite simple.
Sindorei and Shaldorei are Elves that are no longer kaldorei - they specifically sailed away or made bubbles, to the point that they are even made playable on opposite factions by Blizzard.
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We know the naga don’t particularly give a damn about the distinction and never have, since WC3
Your statement is a complete misunderstanding of the lore.
Refer to this for every subsequent point you will attempt.
Strictly speaking Azshara had nothing to do with the break, the modern Kaldorei are not more related to Azshara than rebellious highborne.
the kaldorei empire was ruled by a kaldorei named Azshara.
Other elves have disowned the name and made new kingdoms, while the kaldorei people remain
You can not deny Azshara ruled the kaldorei- all you can do is conjure insane hypotheticals unrelated to the lore :
I am discussing the actual lore, not some head canon you want to pretend is true.
Maybe in your head canon fantasy, only your rules apply.
I am talking about the actual lore.
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Ah, the internet.
“What do you prefer on your hotdogs? Mustard or ketchup?”
“What brand of condiment?”
“I hate ketchup”
“What even is a hotdog?”
“BURGERS ARE BETTER”
Way to turn a harmless premise into a pedantic brawl, noble friends.
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I prefer burgers and ketchup over hotdogs
I like hot dogs if they are burnt , too.
With ketchup
Some people say that’s a blasphemy.
I have a friend who likes mustard on pizza rolls. That is true depravity.