One Button is useless for hunters

Just done a wing of LFR, first boss > One Arm.

During the first boss I had to dismiss and resummon my pets multiple times, when I swapped targets my pets would bug out. One the way to One Arm I had to also dismiss and resummon my pets about a dozen times, even after we got into the room, out of combat, target the boss and nothing would happen because my pet decided to run off into Narnia.

The whole time I was using nothing but the One Button Rotation until it stopped working and I had to dismiss my pet and resummon them.

And this is nothing new, it’s just getting worse. Hunter pets have been dumb for the best part of 21 years. And simple things, like if you are in combat and jump down the side a ramp and tell your pets to attack, a ramp, that has a walk way that you can walk down. If you jump off the side instead of running down and tell your pets to attack they will sit up top and do nothing until you dismiss them.

For as long as you are in combat your pets are stupid, they will not snap to you, they will chase an enemy all the way to Siberia, and if the enemy does not actually die, just goes neutral and runs off, your pet follows and will never find their way back.

It really needs fixing considering for BM some 60% of your damage comes from your pets.

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Can we just get something private servers have done for years
let flying pets fly and ignore pathing please
Give em to warlocks and dk’s too, like a perma garg skin for the ghoul and some fel bat for warlocks

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Id pay good money for a flying imp

It don’t work good for alot of classes. But then again like it is hunter!

It doesn’t work good for many classes, but it doesn’t work at all for hunters because once our pet goes off to have a picnic your button gets stuck on Kill Command, and if your pet is not in range of the enemy Kill Command does nothing.

You think losing 20-30% of your potential damage for Ret or Demo is bad? You think having OBR potentially do more than 75% of all other players? In BM spec if your pet is doing nothing you lose about 60% of your total damage and puts you from first on DPS to last.

And it’s not even just a OBR issue, you can still use this or that manually, but without your pets attack you are screwed as BM.

Couldn’t this be resolved by just controlling what your pets attack? Isn’t that what bm is about? Pet management?

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I’m not sure why I rarely have these pet behavior problems people complain about so much. My pets never just run off into random places, unless they’re feared or something. And my pet pathing in dungeons and delves has been fine for years, except for a couple rare exceptions.

Also, the problem isn’t that OBR is “useless” for Hunters. The problem is you mysteriously letting your pets get extremely long distances away from your target so you can’t use Kill Command.

Assuming this is an honest post, the only time I have this happen is when I use “Move To” command on my pet to position it in a particular spot (like on the railroad tracks in Earthcrawl Mines). The pet will keep returning to that spot anytime it can until you do a “Follow” command to cancel the “Move To.” I’ve forgotten I’ve had the Move To set before and been, like, “Hey, buddy, where ya going?”

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I mean, if you’re playing one of the simplest classes in the game and are still trying to cop out with OBR in a raid…I can’t say any issues are short of hilarious.

But also, I too have never seemed to have the pet issues everyone always screeches about (on any pet class)…pathing, aggro, keeping me in combat, whatever. Worst I ever dealt with was pets getting stuck on the target dummies in Freehold, which was rather amusing but never problematic.

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Sad, you may be relegated to using the standard three button Hunter rotation :wink:

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You don’t need to shame someone for using OBR.

For the record, my BM hunter has 20+ keybinds. I don’t use OBR but it’s definitely not as easy as warrior or paladin, rotation-wise.

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What happens if you put pet attack into a macro with OBR?

/cast [nochanneling] Single-Button Assistant 
/petattack
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As someone who plays all three specs at a pretty competent level, I disagree. Lol. Ret and BM/MM are pretty equal, I’ll give you that, but I’d still give the dumb factor slightly to the hunters. All three warrior specs are easily a notch above those when played optimally in high level content though.

Regardless, the point stands. It’s an accessibility spec in and of itself.

You should try having a sense of humor too, though. Of course some of us are gonna give somebody a bit of humorous grief over using OBR in content like that on a wildly easy spec and then taking to the forums to complain about problems with it.

On a side note, I think there’s maybe 2 specs in the entire game that I have that many keybinds for. Just because you have an ability keybound doesn’t mean it needs to be keybound. The number of keybinds you have literally means nothing.

Intentionally overcomplicating a braindead spec doesn’t really give the argument any water.

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Kind of an aside, gaming is one of the only activities where you’re looked down on for using the equipment that makes the game easiest. Your character, class and spec are basically your “equipment” in the game, and there’s a certain condescension aimed at players who choose a “braindead” spec.

However, in real life sports, if you can find a better balanced or designed golf club or tennis racket, or better shoes, skates, etc. that give you a competitive advantage (aka, make the game easier), then it’s always the top players in that sport that gravitate to the superior gear first – unless it’s something that’s so out there that the governing body disallows it.

Nobody in motocross says, “Ha ha, you’re such a loser, using that great bike. Me, I use a 30-year-old Suzuki 250 Enduro with a couple cinder blocks tied to it, because it’s harder, and that means I’m better for being able to compete with it!”

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Not really, you tell your pets to attack one target and if that target is up a ledge, or turns neutral and runs off, or you jump down somewhere while in combat, your pets won’t follow.

How can you manage a pet that is out of range in a different part of the instance/zone?

I ran LFR earlier, going towards One Arm, got into the room with the boss and my pets where attacking adds just outside the room, in range of me as I was also attacking said adds.

Adds died, we started the boss fight and my pets where nowhere to be seen, not in range, not outside the room, not on my map, just gone but still summoned. I have no idea what happened to them, I have to dismiss and resummon them before I could use them.

I have had the same issue many times, like on the second last boss of Nya’lotha where there is a ramp you jump down, your pets just won’t follow, they stay up the top of the ramp and do nothing.

OK pet issues aside (because it’s not actually an OBR issue, it’s that hunter pets are stupid sometimes just don’t follow for whatever reason), what’s the point of OBR if you need to use a macro or manually use spells that OBR should already be handling?

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even though destro is pretty easy as is… the one button feels pretty good on it

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This is just a hunter bug that’s existed forever, not really a 1 button thing. Hunters pets sometimes disappear and need to be re-called after loading screens (it’s annoying, and starting fights without pets out sometimes is something that happens to every hunter). BM and MM are actually among the specs that suffer the least DPS loss from using the OBR

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No but if hunter pets are dumb as dog doodoo, then the one button won’t work.

Its not about the pets being “dumb”, they just despawn sometimes and need to be called back. But yes, “one button rotation” is just damaging abilities, which is true for every class.

As BM your 2 main abilities, kill command and barbed shot cause all your pets to attack at once, keeping them on the same target

As MM you dont even have a pet anymore so this whole topic is irrelevant for them

Cant speak to survival tbh, I havent played it all

But the OBR for hunters absolutely does work, and works better than pretty much every other spec for every other class in the case of BM and MM. Pet AI is like 10x better now than past iterations, and controlling your pet is just a key part of the class (which they took away the need for in the case of MM)

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I haven’t had this problem on my Hunter, I did have the problem on my Warlocks where the sequencer would stop cycling and only cast one ability. It was so bugged out that I had to log out and back in.

It definitely can bug out.

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This may not be a OBR issue. I do not use OBR on my hunter and recently had some issues with my pets acting very strangely despite me not changing anything about my talents, rotation, etc. I made a post about it in the bug report forum:

Whatever it was seems to have resolved itself (at least in my case), but I’m sorry it’s happening to others now too.

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