Once again he cut outlaw's aorta, this dev just hates outlaw community for real

well i agree partial. it’s a bad move not actively doing in raids indeed i admit. One reason is wow raid nowadays is not attractive to me like it used to be after i’ve played thousands of hour in FFIV, lost ark & destiny 2. another reason is I dont participate any guild raid but only a few runs from LFG at the begining of each season only for trinkets and stuff, even if i want to give 100% effort, it’s not likely to get a good parse.

m+ log is indeed unreliable to read, but i still do trust people with high score cuz this is the only reference i can use for M+ content. hope you understand

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look i can understand your reasoning, thats fine. i get it, io is like the only metric available to look at a glance to judge a persons merits simply cause blizzard doesnt put any additional info in the main game and thus gotta use additional addons to further vet a persons stats. im sorry for getting snippy as well.

i like how our conversation ends. lol. thank you for understanding. my apologize for my arbitrary judge in the early post again. i was just upset about how dev keep taking good stuff away from my beloved outlaw

:handshake::handshake:

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Rare wholesome ending on forums, love to see it

You’re all wrong they should make outlaw a ranged pet class with cast timers that do nothing and we can have a whip because I want it

How is it unhealthy? Have you seen the ratings of outlaw rogue in solo shuffle compared to assassination and other classes? That is what I’d call unhealthy… I’m pretty sure it’s the lowest rated dps spec. Heck, blood DK’s having a higher rating.

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What does a season 1 talent nerf have to do with the current state of outlaw in season 4 pvp

nothing. season 1 rotation and its nerf has become a past. my point is this dev keeps change outlaw in a weird way. for now it is the Acrobatic Strikes. we lost the 3 yard extra attack range in the upcoming expansion TWW.

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where are we finding the information on the fan the hammer nerf?

this was long ago

the post is 5 days old. fan is fine in it’s current state, what’s the tears about?

no i mean, the fth nerf was changed was ages ago in seas on1

then this is a useless post. fan is fine

XD this post is not about complaining fan nerf

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Could we please start redirecting the conversation towards shaming Blizzard more for taking Acro strikes away from Rogues?

I’m literally not touching my rogue until it’s back, it’s such an unforgiveably dumb thing to do .

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Exactly. However even if we get old acro strike back, the performance of rogue in beta test is still a disaster. the hero talent is incomplete and imcompatible somehow with spec. I have zero idea why the dev decided to nerf acro strike first like rogue is already doing good but it’s not. XD

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To be clear, they (our class devs) didnt choose to remove acro.

Acro was removed across the board. When this happens, 99% of the time its because one of the higher up devs (not directly responsible for individual class design, but overseeing it) made an executive broad decision and all the actual class devs need to follow it. Acro effects were removed across the board from every spec that had one.

Was this decision dumb? absolutely. Of all the specs in the game, theres a reason outlaw was the first melee to receive acro many years ago. But blaming the removal of it on the rogue dev seems very silly when acro was removed from paladin, hunter and feral as well.

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make sense. if it’s the fact, then it’s more unlikely they would revert the change. pure sad.

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Worst part is that range DPS kept their extra range they received from systemlands.

It is going to be a raging dumpster fire of balancing from what I am seeing so far.

Outlaw, Rets and Frost DKs are designed around being pseudo range melee specs though, To an extent also Enhance Shamans so this hurts these specs the most IMO.

:surfing_woman: :surfing_man:

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xd indeed. sigh. how am i even get invited for M+ content with this upcomming outlaw lol. it’s already took me like 45 mins to one hour to get into a group in LFG. T.T

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