Stop it.
People are already flat out IGNORING the adds on pantheon because you can just push them to 50% without paying attention to any mechanics.
On anduin, PUGs are hitting max will power so fast that they are just jumping around and waiting in the down phase.
PUGs are getting anduin so low that they can completely ignore dispells in p3.
THESE THINGS ARE ALREADY HAPPENING BEFORE PEOPLE HAVE TIER SETS.
And you want it to be easier?
Knock it off and stop making the game less fun. These nerfs are insanely stupid.
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I would also like to add that the rent is too damn high.
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I would super love to see the group comps and ilvls of people supposedly doing that. I bet it’s people so geared to the teeth that nothing in the raid, besides tier and maybe select trinkets, are actual upgrades.
Super big shocker…super overgeared and likely overskilled groups cherry picking min/max meta specs/comps curb stomp a raid designed for beer league casuals…and in other shocking news, water is found to be wet.
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You would be wrong, because in weeks 1 and 2, being “geared to the teeth” isnt a thing. Reading is hard. “Undergeared pugs” means “overgeared min maxing.”
What a dismissable response.
Last group i was in killed 4 bosses with 3 people in LFR nathria gear and questing greens.
They are doing this on heroic and mythic? If so sure its an issue. Far as LFR/Normal goes it probably should be nerfed.
Why should normal be a push over?
Your classification of under or overgeared is in question. 250+ ilvl, which I’m betting is what the minimum ilvl these groups are running, is overgeared since the raid itself drops 252 and thus would be designed for 235-246 or so ilvl players.
Again, I’d like to see actual proof of people in “Nathria LFR gear (which is what…200 ilvl?)” curb stomping Anduin like you’re saying is happening.
In… week… 1… and… 2… it… isnt… possible… to… out… gear… the… raid… yet.
I know thats a hard idea.
Dont even need to be good at the game to do well in this raid. Just have to be OK. I know that bar is too high for people.
Why cant i smash my face off my desk and win on normal mode?
It’s so obvious when people didn’t play the game when there was actual progression happening outside of time gating.
Walk in and win week 1 or it’s too hard.
Not true. I started this patch at 251 and before even stepping into the raid I was 253 or so. I’m only doing normal in hopes of getting tier. Literally nothing in that raid, save a weapon since I went all of S2 without a single vault drop, is an upgrade for me in that raid save the bosses past Anduin and only barely at that.
Again, YOUR definition of “overgeared” is wrong. You’re expecting overgeared to be something like 260 or 265 which is what the higher progression people are at/pushing when overgeared for normal raid this tier is 250+ and something MANY people, especially people who did S2 mythic+, are at day 1.
This ignores the fact normal mode is INTENDED to be beer league difficult where you could be at the middle to somewhat left of the bell curve and still win and past the first 3 bosses, is NOT the case and I can guarantee next week isn’t going to magically get better with unity being available because the core issues are overly demanding and punishing mechanics more on par with heroic.
You want even more proof? Go look at the yesterday’s tuning changes. Both Halondrous and Anduin got MASSIVE nerfs and, surprise surprise, are the 2 bosses I said was overtuned. I’ve 0 doubt a mythic raid team could go in on normal and smash Anduin to dust to try and get some tier just like I have 0 doubt your typical middle and left of center bell curve “average-ish” players in 235-245 gear are not.
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a friend from the forum has full 252s from world content outside of trinkets, iirc. that’s way outgeared for normal. but do go on.
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I’m only 7/11 on normal currently and I’m at ilvl 253 when normal drops 252. It is very possible to do so on Normal at least, especially when we’ve already had a timewalking event, a mythic dungeon event, max level legendaries, high level crafted/uniques, Mythic+, etc…
EDIT: That’s not to say everyone has/should have done all of those to maximize that opportunity, but you could definitely put together a group that has.
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Have you not met WoW GD? If these players don’t have BiS within a month of gameplay, they’re either crying the loot system is flawed or the encounters are too hard.
Thankfully Blizzard rarely listens to these players.
My fun is better than your fun.
NOBODY cares. First of all, thats YOUR opinion that it makes the game less fun.
Me? I DONT CARE if normal and heroic are piss easy. GG GOODBYE SULTANI
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this guy seems to be flexing that he’s l33t because he finds the normal bosses fun whereas other casuals are having problems. 
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Your assumption of “push over” and an apparent utter inability to recognize the large gray area in between means you can’t even tell when you are out of touch, just leaping to irrelevant extremes
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because it is normal… used to be flex. it should be able to be accomplished by people in greens and blues of appropriate ilvl who are drinking beer or eating pizza with one hand. That is what original flex now normals were billed at… a friends and family league style raid.
I shouldn’t have to get sweaty about it.
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