Literally the two most hyped and sought after items that come from Old Naxx and you decide to omit them.
Why? It’s not like Ashbringers aren’t abundant after Legion. A new account can literally get one after an hour of playing a Paladin.
Why can’t I just live my Death Knight dreams of using it and doing the secret Scarlet Crusade rp? You had the perfect opportunity to have many people really have fun and you crapped the proverbial bed.
If you’d like some Hopium, old Scarlet Monastery is returning in 10.1.7 . Perhaps a crafted Corrupted Ashbringer (different name of course) may become available?
If by “Old Naxx” you mean “Current Naxx, but there’s a portal in EPL, and frozen runes spawn again,” yeah. I think a lot of people are getting confused because both versions of Naxx are almost entirely identical beyond one of the four horsemen and how some of the NPCs dress.
Yes. It’s just another entrance to the raid in Northrend.
I think folks are getting it mixed up since the most immediately apparent change between Vanilla and WotLK Naxx was the removal of the runes, which have now been restored, but the raid is literally still Naxx10/25.
Besides the removal of frozen runes, many of the mobs use different models (Plague beasts for example were not plague eruptor models, but bog beasts. Flesh giants in Abomination wing were originally abominations in terms of models,Most of the Death Knight wing used different and much simplier models, etc), Baron Rivendare replaced Highlord Mograine, No Ashbringer or Atiesh, michael mcmahon doesnt voice kel’thuzad anymore. And those were the biggest changes off the top of my head that i recall.
I think the reason they didn’t bring them back is a misguided “it will undermine those who get it”.
Zul’gurub was literally soloable in wotlk so it was just luck-based trip if you got the mounts or didn’t. What is the lost prestige or “undermining” that happens if they re-add the entire old ZG with its rewards back?
It would be the equivalent of removing ICC and Ulduar tomorrow. Mimiron’s head and Invincible are both soloable in the same veins as Zul’gurub in wotlk. The mounts aren’t really “prestige” or something deep. The stance makes sense with stuff like old Zul’aman bear or gladiator mounts, but in this case it doesn’t.
As for Atiesh and Ashbringer, i believe its lore reasons they don’t want those back. Honestly it doesn’t hold any water when DHs can transmog illidan’s iconic warglaives, so its just a weird argument.
I really dislike how “lore reasons” is arbitrarily used. I can dress up as a Yeti wearing a BlizzCon chain. The “lore reasons” excuse became entirely invalid once that happened.
It’s also inconsistent. If “players cant just walk around with iconic lore weapons they don’t own”, why the hell the DHs can just mog Illidan’s warglaives of Azzinoth then?