I use items that look cool. Other people using them doesnt change how cool they are to me.
If you are only wearing an item you dont even like the look of simply because its exclusive, I pity you
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These are cosmetic rewards in a PvP environment, itâs a bit different than PvE sets. For a similar comparison, weâd need to refer to CM sets or Mage Tower sets - if those did come back, many want similar challenges requisite those rewards.
If the PvP elite sets came back, they should similarly be rewarded for the same effort - as I said, the vicious saddle system offers a good example of this - X number of wins past glad rank gets a token for a set.
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I pity the mindset that wrote this sentence 
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No, PvP rewards should be treated like the PvE rewards that they mirror, which are raids. If Mythic sets were unavailable outside of current CE content thatâd be one thing, but they are not.
The issue with this is that the âworkâ required to obtain elite sets has changed many times over the years.
Cataclysm elite sets required 2200.
Legion elite sets required 2000.
Shadowlands elite sets required 1800 - DF and TWW follow that same requirement.
So if blizzard were to release old elite pvp sets, people should have to obtain the rating they originally required - donât allow someone to get a cataclysm elite set for 1800.
Never allow gladiator mounts, though, because gladiator mounts prior to BFA required you to be in the top percentile of rating for your battlegroup which cannot be replicated under the current system.
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This is incorrect and has been incorrect forever. PVP sets had their own unique models and appearances going all the way back to Wrath when they differed, and elite mogs were the equivalent of PVE challenge mode items like CM sets, mage towers, etc. It wasnât until WoD season 2 where Blizzard reverted back to making elite mogs / PvP mogs copies of raid sets because they became lazy.
Elite mogs have never been comparable to mythic raid. Go look at WoD season 1 warrior, for example, and youâll see what Iâm talking about. That Rhino set has no equivalent in the game. That was the intent until Blizzard started cutting corners hard like they did in TBC.
The whole point behind PvP from Wrath onward was to collect special appearances like T2 weapons which had different art. Stop making this false comparison.
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Yeah and? You could also argue its harder to get 1800 now than it was to get 2200 then - they are basically two very different games at this point. Release them all who cares. The PVP participation is so low anyway Iâll take anything to inject new blood into it
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Except that the majority of PvP sets are taken directly from the raids and exactly mirror those sets. So, despite what you said, itâs not false nor has it always been.
No. Furthest they should go with this is if one toon earned it, on a class, then every toon on your account of the same season that is a different class could get it. But even that is stretching things a little But since all our titles are account bound now, maybe mog earned from same time period could be as well.
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Pvps need their mountain of special snowflake items or else theyâll throw bigger tantrums than they already do
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Theyâre gonna do that anyway because nobody plays PvP. While complaining about any change that would encourage people to do so.
Again, read what I said. From Wrath till WoD season 2, PvP sets were their own individual sets and had nothing to do with raid sets aesthetically or otherwise. WoD season 2 onward, they began copying them again. No, itâs not the same thing, and has never been the same thing. And judging something as âthe same itemâ based on appearance and not qualification is also wrong.
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Theyâre overwhelmingly the same models, but theyâre treated different because the PvP forums whine about someone else getting cosmetics.
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Theyâve attached too much personal value to a game they donât own.
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100% agree.
You take this game way too seriously. Plus youâre forgetting that super old âelite setsâ you can get for less than 200 gold. Grand and Field Marshall gear is for the public. You needed those ranks to get that set. That also goes for everything up to WOD. But no one complains. Itâs only a recent thing that (some) pvp players have a problem with it, and itâs hilarious.
Like I said before, and what I just quoted, you should be able obtain sets that are no longer current content for minimum amount of work. Keep the price of them as Honor Tokens. Any armors and weapons from S1 Dragonflight and prior expansions should be fair game. Thatâs not an unreasonable ask. And it takes nothing away from those who earn the ranks, achievements, and mounts for those seasons and xpacks.
Neither do you. So thereâs that.
Doubtful. Especially older sets like Legion, Mists. Hell Iâll say Field Marshal gear, and like I said above, thatâs paid for with just gold now. No title or rank required.
Ironic.
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You cannot mog the Grand Marshall or High Warlord sets/weapons unless you achieve 1800 in RBGs
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True but that is arguably bringing it back⌠im not super pro or against⌠slightly pro but I get it
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No they shouldnât.
Stop asking.
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You already can. The non elite sets and weapons are all available for honor tokens.
Youâre not entitled to elite sets as you didnât earn them.
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You could have made one post to reply to different things. Could have. Oh well.
Anyways, quit being upset over digital items. Quit being upset over items that arenât current content. Just quit being upset. Life is easier when you let go. And no, I wonât stop asking. Thank you for coming though.
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