Okay, what's the problem with corruption?

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It’s not currently RNG like Titanforging was, because you can buy your corruptions from MOTHER. Yes, it makes you very powerful, but the whole content is powerful because it was designed for people to exploit it, so it’s balanced. What exactly is the problem with it?

Edit: This thread is focusing on corruptions for your main and how it is currently. There’s a lot of people telling me it’s bad for alts they don’t play and how it was bad on release, but I want to know about it now and on toons you care about.

Edit 2: Thread seems just about resolved, it could be a potentially great idea in SL if they (and the content they scale with) get a nerf, it would be great if you could toggle the ability to find corruption on alts to eliminate the possibility of getting an upgrade you can’t cleanse, and were removed from PvP to prevent OP classes from being ludicrous.

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Have you done a WQ for an upgrade on a character that hasn’t even started the Black Empire questline, and received a much needed upgrade with 75 corruption on it?

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The fact that you say it’s balanced doesn’t make it balanced.

It was… more or less on par with previous systems at launch. There was potential for ridiculousness, but the RNG kept that manageable.

When they added the vendor so people could easily stack whatever corruptions they wanted on every piece of gear within a couple weeks…

It broke. Characters are like twice as strong as the content was designed around because of it.

I’m not saying the pure RNG for such a big part of player power was good. It wasn’t. But giving up and slapping powerful effects on a vendor with no limits for super cheap wasn’t the right solution.

The CONCEPT of corruption was decent. It’s an interesting take on gear. But the specifics of the implementation were godawful, both at launch and in the vendor patch.

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Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheh.

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As a matter of fact I have. On my DH skinner, I recieved a sword with TD3 on it. I simply don’t use it, no problem

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Did you play in early 8.3? Worst system they have ever implemented, its only fine now because they ‘fixed’ it.

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It’s a much needed upgrade, and you don’t see a problem with not being able to use it?

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I agree. The purification process should have been free and instantly available.

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It’s not like it takes all that long to unlock corruption purification though. You can get all the way up to having the cloak in a couple of hours, even on a fresh 120 with questing greens.

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The problem is now irrelevant as it’s going to get deleted soon.

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This exactly. If I cared enough, I would take the hour or 2 at most and just bang it out real quick. It’s an ALT, it doesn’t need full meta gear

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The point remains.

Corruption shouldn’t exist on gear until you’ve started the questline.

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He’s referring to a WQ gear reward. Really? You throw in the “meta” gear comment already? For a WQ reward…?

Come on. You can do better.

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Okay, you guys have deviated from the point. It’s not about how terrible it is on characters you don’t play enough to do a 2 hour questline, it’s about your MAIN. What’s so bad about it on your MAIN that people complain every 10 minutes about it?

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My thing about people who refused to do the questline to get their cloak on alts is this…

If you just want to focus on gear and be suboptimal by avoiding the borrowed power systems…

Okay.

But the Cloak is literally gear. It’s a guaranteed forever-BiS cloak. Nothing will ever replace it even if you never bother upgrading it.

So what’s the difference between spending an hour running faceroll dungeons for a chance at like 415 ilvl gear vs spending an hour and a half doing a questline that GUARANTEES a 470 ilvl piece of gear, along with a 440, a 400ish, and a 420 if you do the first vision well along the way?

The questline is literally gearing. It’s not even the borrowed power / corruption stuff at that point. It’s just gear.

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You genuinely don’t see the issue of putting forth effort to get a reward, only for that reward to be rendered useless because of a random modifier?

You seriously don’t see the issue with that?

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Ideally they’d have an opt-in, but my point remains that this is a pretty trivial problem given how quickly you can get through the questline.

Especially if it’s an alt and you don’t have to the do the instanced stuff.

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They always try to get me to replace my gear because of some new gimmick. Like item level or warforging or a socket or corruption or whatever. How about NO! I like this gear and I’m not changing it.

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You guys clearly don’t read, so I’ll copy/paste my last comment

Okay, you guys have deviated from the point. It’s not about how terrible it is on characters you don’t play enough to do a 2 hour questline, it’s about your MAIN. What’s so bad about it on your MAIN that people complain every 10 minutes about it?

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It was, initially, and this was a massive issue. It was insanely feast-or-famine: you could get pre-nerf Echoing Void, or Gushing Wound, or your best Stat Amp Corruption, or you could get Avoidant, Siphoner, or Surging Vitality.

…on a very set-in-stone rotation, where you can only buy what you want during a three-day window every month, basically.

Ehh… it really wasn’t. Nothing was really designed with these 108% Mastery-stacked Fire Mages or Destro Locks hitting such obscene Haste amounts that they would outright go OOM or BM Hunters hitting such huge Crit amounts that they get a crazy feedback loop of Crit into Haste into Mastery into Crit into Haste or Arms Warriors getting more Rage than Fury Warriors because they’re autoattacking at ludicrous rates.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733866004236730408/755170026117529670/unknown.png

You sure about that one, chief?

The classes that are good without Corruption got exponentially better with it while the classes that scale poorly with their stats just got comparatively worse than the Big Four. Monks got the absolute shaft from this system; they don’t scale with a damn thing and don’t really get anything out of their secondary stats.

The Corruption Vendor is still meticulously-designed to be tedious beyond belief.

And if you opt to not do the Cloak quest (you’re honestly dumb if you put this off for so long though) you can’t use about 15% of the gear you get.