Ok. You can unlock cross-faction open world groups now

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Seeing as everyone has figured out how to get around your self-imposed restrictions by completely flooding the legacy raids section of the group finder with 10 billion SOFO groups that are ALL fronts of cross-faction farm groups, you can now go ahead and just unlock cross-faction open world grouping. So that at the very least, it will clean out these groups from where they quite clearly shouldn’t be. Pushing it out in the 10.1.7 update should suffice.

Thanks.

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I have been in cross faction open world groups - even last expansion. What are you talking about?

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You cant form up a group for open world content simply by inviting your friend to your group. So if your friend if leveling a horde and your leveling an alliance character, you cant share quest kills and stuff.

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Was about to say this. It doesn’t matter how many of those “farming groups” they post in legacy raids; they aren’t sharing loot drops in the world so they’re actually harming themselves by trying.

That being said, I’d be good with them doing away with the final restrictions.

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they still haven’t unlocked all factions yet…?
lol we’re almost done with this expansion and one of the biggest things still isn’t out. people wanna play with their friends blizz…

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You cannot currently create cross-faction open world groups. The game literally tells you that when you join a cross-faction group.

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Technically you can create them, but they are highly restricted:

  • Cannot heal opposite faction
  • Cannot buff opposite faction
  • Cannot speak to opposite faction in /s or /y
  • Loot is not shared
    – In order for opposite faction to be able to loot the same corpse, they must all be on the tag list which means doing something that tags the mob (usually damage). This is the same as it works when you’re ungrouped; by contrast, party members of the same faction can loot all nearby corpses as long as they were in the vicinity of a same-faction party member’s kill, regardless of whether they personally tagged it.

It is barely possible and sacrifices looting efficiency if you’re farming.

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Yes I know. That’s why everybody has flooded the legacy raids section to get around the limitation. It’s stupid and needs to be lifted to stop with this nonsense once and for all.

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You can do dungeons and raid together as well as be in the same guild. But questing outdoors somehow isnt allowed. Like I dont even understand the logic of not having this unlocked yet.

Its also annoying if someone from another faction wants to run raid with you and they (for example as trial raider) are in another guild. You have to add them to your stinking bnet friends list for them and you to whisper each other for raid invites!?!?!??!?!?!?!

WTF Blizz… Come on!!!

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It doesn’t really “get around” anything except placing the opposite faction players in the same shard. If mobs die before both factions tag then loot and applicable quest credits are sacrificed.

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Except it does. It gets around the fact that you cannot invite a cross-faction player in open world, nor can you often find a cross-faction group listing unless it’s through the legacy raids section which does not share the same limitation the custom LFG does.

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This isn’t much different than inviting your opposite faction friends directly via BattleTag, IMO, but it’s relative semantics and we ultimately agree there’s little need for the restrictions any longer.

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The flooding of the wrong sections of the group finder (which is partly what this thread is about) is due to the fact that by exploiting the agnostic way the legacy raids section treats cross-faction players vs the custom LFG. So it makes a huge difference to the amount of spam/fake listings in the legacy raids section as people are far less likely to have 10 billion btags friends they can peruse from vs rando pugs in the group finder.

I’ve had to at least 2-300 people to my ignore list over the last couple months due to this issue.

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I have joined many groups for world content that are both factions. Researchers under Fire, world bosses, etc. What definition of ‘open world’ are you using?

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Dude. Why are you such a troll?

  1. You know full well that this is a thread about how the inability to list proper cross-faction groups in the custom LFG has impacted the legacy group finder.
  2. Your strawman arguments are obvious.
  3. Once again I repeat to you, you cannot create a cross-faction group in open world. That means you cannot right-click a horde players icon and select “invite” as an alliance player and visa versa. That is what it means to create cross-faction open world groups. Blizz has self-imposed this limitation.
  4. This is the same trolling you did with the bnet thread.
  5. Cross-faction grouping via world bosses are irrelevant since they are auto-accept by default and no bot farmers wants that so they are never used for the purpose that this thread is talking about.
  6. Cross-faction via the custom LFG is limited/wonky and not fully open as the legacy raids section is. You can confirm this by using 2 accounts, posting a group, logging onto an opposite faction alt, and seeing that your previously created cross-faction group is not shown in the custom group finder. I am not 100% certain on the inner workings of how blizz restricts the custom group finder but it clearly isn’t as open as the legacy raids section.

Time to put you on ignore and move on. :wave:

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This stuff is hard-coded into the game at every level. You can get around it in instances since they’re little pocket universes, but not in the open world.

This isn’t a switch Blizzard can just flip on and off. I was saying since the notion of cross-faction guilds first floating that it couldn’t work in the open world. Everyone said I was wrong, then LO AND BEHOLD cross-faction “guilds” come out with all the restrictions I said they would have.

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the thread is about having cross faction groups in the open world - it literally says so in the title. Everything else is just fluff.

I have no idea what is in legacy group finder so I ignored that part.

people must be able to because I have joined them…

you are talking you cannot party up with people in the open world and I think that is a good thing. I don’t know how you could quest together in older expansions anyway since horde and alliance had separate quests and areas. They should keep things consistent.

well I am not trolling here and I wasn’t trolling there - but making personal attacks will get you reported.