Don’t encourage him; that’s not what anyone is arguing. 
This. I geared up every alt in week 1 before the trolls got loose, because I have the amazing power of predicting consequence-free human behavior.
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Well darn, it’s a great thing that I mentioned that I think it should be in a single place then, right?
And again, here:
Where I responded:
At least read all of my posts before determining I’m your enemy. Good god, woman. Lol
That’s my husband. I’m not a him. He’s encouraging me.
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Yea, you have to go to Darkshire and Xroads just to open up the Icecrown dailies. I’d say it was about 70/30 today on whether it was overran with zombies or not. I thought I would be safe in Icecrown until I saw all the zombies piled around the bosses. It made what was a laggy slideshow on rares come to an utter standstill.
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And by “fun” you mean you can act as a virtual sociopath with no real consequences. AKA, an a-hole.
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Can they be… sparkly shoes? 
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I’ve been reading it for a while. That’s actually what several people are arguing and suggesting.
I completely agree with her.
The only issue I’ve seen you, and several other people, bring up is the… bugs. Which should be fixed. So when they are… everything will be exactly as we both want it? How is working from that perspective at all flawed?
You’re not supposed to be able to be force flagged and participating outside of Orgrimmar in War Mode. It didn’t happen on the PTR, it shouldn’t be happening here. You should have the very things you’re arguing for.
The only thing I’d come close to agreeing with you on is fixing zones like Boralus, because they shouldn’t be sharded for Warmode and normal content, like Orgimmar is. That’s pretty much it.
EDIT: I want Orgimmar to be an absolute donkey show until Shadowlands drops. A horrid, messy donkey show. That opinion will not change.
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I’ve stated so many times now that I don’t think people should be force-flagged into the event outside of Orgimmar, and perhaps like Razor Hill or a BG or two (which is already PvP), and people just cannot seem to comprehend that that is my opinion.
Edit: However, I have added so many alternative ways to play the game because at the end of the day, this isn’t my decision, or my game. This is the event. This is what Blizzard has implemented. You can either enjoy or, or go try to find a safe place to hide. I fail to see how acknowledging the reality is my fault.
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Oy vey. Literally no one cares what sex you are.
But I see now; you’re suggesting one zone be plague central. But that’s not the reality of it. So I don’t really understand what you’re actually suggesting. Yours is just another band aid solution, when they could have went bananas on the event and just let people opt out.
Flummoxed. Absolutely.
At the very least, Arysa, I have spent the last few days telling people what I believe to be solutions to an event I have zero control over instead of complaining about the event itself.
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This isn’t all bugs - the last event was an absolute showstopper, hence them turning it off early.
And it being on PTR doesn’t automatically make the live version incorrect or a “bug”; it might just mean they walked back the decision after testing it on PTR.
Sure, but this isn’t the first time this event has come up. This is the third time we’ve had a scourge invasion; everyone is fully aware that they can go somewhere else to avoid the ghouls…the issue is that to take part in ANY of the prelaunch things, you will come up against forced pvp.
So yes, if your solution is, “Don’t take part in any of the prelaunch event stuff”, well, that is certainly a suggestion you can make. But it’s crummy. It’s not a true solution, as it merely means you are simply removing yourself from the equation. It doesn’t let you do any of the new content.
However, many of us have suggested they just allow people who aren’t warmode flagged to be shifted into a different shard, which is an excellent idea. And still allows us to partake of the prelaunch Shadowlands stuff.
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No patch or update survives first point of reference with the retail version of the game. It never has.
So I think it’s a very safe assumption to make that the PTR version was what was intended, considering that the issues go against how the game is supposed to function. There’s only one, very old, way to force flag yourself outside warmode. There’s no way to force flag others. They even made sure of that when the mode was first released, by removing AoE flagging from players who were flagged outside of warmode.
I know it’s often easy to play the poor developers of such a small, indie studio as Blizzard as incompetent, but surely not that level.
You’re right, and I’ve literally been screaming this from the top of my lungs since the beginning. Apparently it has just now landed.
Yes. That is my solution. Blizzard has not offered or implemented any alternatives, so I don’t know what other options there are for players who despise the event. I mean, I guess they can come complain on the forums about it, as we’ve seen so much these last few days, but that won’t solve the reality. The event is here. Participate, or find a safe place to go hide for seven days and let others participate. That’s been the solution all along.
I never said it was the right solution. I said it was the solution.
I’ve never once disagreed with this.
Edit: Except for Orgrimmar. I still firmly believe at least one city should be plague central, especially since there are alternatives for the week.
Don’t worry, you couldn’t even see me on your map earlier. Small indie company.
Blizzard has not offered or implemented any alternatives.
This is what I think most people arguing have overlooked.
Her stance, at least from what I’ve read, has never once been, “forget you, suck it up and go away for a week.” It was, “Blizzard has not launched any alternatives and has not fixed the bugs. So for now, here are some options, because none of us are developers and none of us can fix it.”
Offering suggestions when the alternative is doing nothing seems pretty… harmless and okay to me? Who knows, I might just be dumb.
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Couldn’t see you on my map. Half my markers were gone. The quests didn’t show up. It was delightful.
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Literally my point from minute one.
Who knows man, apparently it’s made me evil on the forums. I got called a psychopath earlier for trying to explain that the event is here and people have to participate or leave. It’s like they think I can go edit the game.
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I don’t think I know what you’re saying here - that the PTR version is the correct, non buggy format and what we have here is bugs? Doesn’t that make them incompetent in some respect?
Yes. That is my solution. Blizzard has not offered or implemented any alternatives, so I don’t know what other options there are for players who despise the event. I mean, I guess they can come complain on the forums about it, as we’ve seen so much these last few days, but that won’t solve the reality. The event is here. Participate, or find a safe place to go hide for seven days and let others participate. That’s been the solution all along.
I never said it was the right solution. I said it was the solution.
This is still just wasted space here; no one is asking you “how do I avoid ghouls”. They’re asking BLIZZARD to make a change to allow us to still do the prelaunch stuff without coming afoul of their either buggy or poorly designed content.
Again, you aren’t offering suggestions relevant to what people are clamoring for.
Offering suggestions when the alternative is doing nothing seems pretty… harmless and okay to me? Who knows, I might just be dumb.
It’s been active for a day - the whole point of these threads is to make the issues known, give them alternatives and have them take it from there. Like I said, last time, people posted and they shut it down. That’s not the option I’d prefer here, but if it gets bad enough, it’s likely to be one they employ.