Ok sod is not Classic and its a Season so Why are you afraid of blizzard putting in new and Modern features?

Ok I’ve heard this same sentence so many times We can’t do this because it’s not classic that’s not classic that’s how classic works.

OK SOD IS NOT CLASSIC OF DF ITS DIFFERENT So let me ask Why can’t we try some of these modern features? What is the thing that you’re scared of ?

The worst thing that happens Okay will that sucked but at least we know.

Personal loot,Dual speck,Transmog, New class mechanics If you want classic you have era and hc Technically.

So What is it your actually scared of ? The only justifiable thing I can think of is they may bring some things from sod 2 era and im 99.9% Sure the absolutely will not do that.

So again I ask Why not push the limits? Why not say let’s try it? I don’t know if it’ll be good or let’s try it.

Yes Blizzard has done some new stuff but I say push the limit Even further because I would rather Blizzard put in something new or Modern And it suck, then them just say Well thas to modern we don’t want to try it or That’s not classic.

And I would say if they’re not gonna test it here If in a season then where can they try it ? So I ask what are you afraid of ?

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Was expecting revamped talent trees with SoD’s release to be honest. you’d think with all these retail abilities and new gear Dual spec would’ve been in game from day one.
Personal loot no thanks.

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SoD is meant to be different from classic, but it’s still classic.

Retail is right there if that’s the experience you want. It’s not season of retail.

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The classic dirt is caked on rather thick.
A “new” cloth will not help.(it’s not exactly new, we’ve seen most of it before)
There’s still way too much mud.
And in some cases it wouldn’t help the mess, but cause more of a smear.

I feel this is a spot-on analogy.

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It is vanilla with a new raid, new runes, and a new pvp event. Everything else is the same.

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Because retail sucks.

We want Vanilla+ not Retail-lite.

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I’m all for quality of life things. Like items stacking to a higher quantity, and aoe looting.

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Change is the c-word to a lot of people.

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I’m sorry to hear that.

But we have Classic Era if that’s what you want.

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I feel that more and more with each PvP centered update.
And if that’s not how you feel, tell me how the flowers smell. I know they are covered…

Ummmmmm no its not Classic From the rune Abilities To the new rolls classes get beat cousin of those.

To the new items And the changes to professions no It’s not classic my dude And You missed the very point I was trying to make.

I’m not saying that you should put a Specific feature in I’m saying it’s a season if they’re not going to try weird stuff here. Where can blizzard try it ?

And Why are you afraid of it if it goes in It’s not affecting era so why ? What is the thing if a specific modern change goes in? What are you scared of ?

Because you know the Thing about a season if it doesn’t work well Hey it’s a season aka The place where blizzard should try things.

We’ve been telling them Years stop Being scared of being well complacent and try something new and This is the perfect place for them to do it.

They’re not gonna know unless they try it They have to be unafraid of failing If they just keep re releasing The same thing over and over with no changes nothing’s ever gonna change.

Sod Is a really good step forward but i’m saying They have to push the Line Because at least in my opinion, isn’t it better that they try it. And it may suck whatever that thing may be.

Then just never do it and say well I kind of wish we had given it shot But we were to afraid people wouldn’t like it.

Why not try personal loot ? Why not I don’t know Try dragon flight classes Why not ? What i’m asking is what are you afraid of ?

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It is literally called World of Warcraft CLASSIC Season of Discovery.

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You mean like classic tbc and wrath and cata ?

I mean really ? So Technically the only thing that you could say about sod Being classic Is the fact that classic is in the name ? Ummmmmm ok Just saying not a good argument.

Or are you really going to try to tell me that wrath and tbc and cata and Probably mop At some point are Classic ?

Now i’m not seeing any of those expansions are bad , but what i’m saying is they’re not classic.

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SoD runs on the WoW Classic client. It is WoW Classic, the game, with some experimental gimmicks added. You can’t weasel around blatant facts as you’re want to do.

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Personally, I only want minor changes… the spirit of classic should stay true, which it has… I do feel some QoL would greatly improve the game, as the new raids and runes have. I wanna see things like dual spec added… but for the most part, that’s really about it for me. If I want a more modern approach or organized PVP like arenas, I’ll hop on retail.

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So effectively your arguments this Because it’s the classic client again though You could make those exact same arguments with tbc and wrath cata Not so much agreed but still.

And what do you mean Sum gimmicks They’ve added how many new items and change how many items.

Literally added quest lines and Npc’s and Obviously the runes and Literally changed five men dungeons into raids Those aren’t little gimmicks my friend.

And technically created world events on top of it These aren’t minor changes They’re quite substantial So no there is too many changes to call sod Classic.

And Mind you let me remind you we’re only 40 out of 60 And if you’re really going to tell me that sod is Classic okay.

Let me ask you this If they were to remove the runes When we’re at the end of the season of sod Do you think they should just put all the new itemsinto era ?

If it’s really classic right If it’s really not that much of a difference , then you , you could make that argument.

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You do know TBC and WotLK ran on their own clients, right?

And yes, they are experimental gimmicks by their nature. The base game is still WoW Classic across the board. ‘Features’ as the sort you want would dramatically alter the experience.

Look, I’m not going to debate this further with someone whose entire argument is based around denying basic facts. I originally just dropped in to point out… a basic fact.

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You know that SoD and Era are on the same client and nearly every new ‘sod’ feature has caused bugs in Era right?

Adding to SoD also means they could turn it on in Era much easier.

So yes, there are good reasons to not add retail trash QoL.

Also dev time is limited, I much rather they focus on making good content instead of adding retail stuff that we already know is bad. Runes already took away so much of the balance and made the game worse, why dig that hole deeper?

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I feel like this is the biggest non-argument towards no/less/minimal changes.

Keep the spirit of classic alive, but this isn’t strictly classic… they already made changes. Wouldn’t be much of a stretch to add a few bits of QOL.

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It’s not a non-argument if you remember that Era also runs on the Classic client, as Sa pointed out.

Then there’s the fact the pro-QOL crowd can’t even agree where on the slippery slope they would stop at. It’s no use listening even after changes like reduced talent costs, it’s always cries for more.

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