🐉 Official Twilight Highlands Allied Race Megathread

Community General Discussion
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Wildhammer Dwarf? Yes. Another Mag’har or Fel Orc No.

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Dragonmaw Orcs are neither. Like the Orcs of the New Horde, they were once subjected to the blood curse, but are no longer. Unlike their counterparts, however, they now seem to be fueled by draconic energy - perhaps their exposure to the Demon Soul began this process?

In any case, they are both culturally and physically distinct from any playable Orcs. Just as Wildhammer are distinct from the playable Dwarves.

A Bronzebeard in war paint does not a Wildhammer make.

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Ah I see, didn’t know that about the Dragonmaws.

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Yep. In fact, they didn’t show up on the AU Draenor anywhere for some reason.

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For a reason. They’re more just more Orcs. Boring.

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I think the developers actually “overloaded” on the Dragonmaw with Cata/MoP and wanted to give the other Orcs a chance to shine.

And more Orcs is always a good thing.

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Wildhammer would be cool imo they could have druids

Dragonmaw could just be a barbershop addition

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Dragonmaw Orc’s don’t really have much to distinguish themselves compared to Mag’har or even regular Orc’s, their just regular Orc’s with grey skin. Plus the fact the entire clan allied with Garrosh, so that tells you their initial disposition. Their better set up as a additional barbershop option.

Same with Wildhammer Dwarfs, their just regular Dwarfs with tattoo’s, add those in for regular dwarfs and that’s that.

Plus we did just get Mag’har and the Dark Iron’s, so seeing another Orc and Dwarf pairing isn’t likely this expansion.

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Dragonmaw are already effectively in the Mag’har orcs group so it’s unlikely well see any more orc allied races. Wildhammer however need to be in.

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That would be news to me, given that they were both formerly Fel-infused (thus, not Mag’har “uncorrupted” by definition), and they weren’t included on the alternate Draenor at all.

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Although I too would like to see them both added, the problem is the opportunity cost.

In a perfect world blizzard says ok, spends 0 resources, they are added tomorrow. In reality, time spent working on them is time spent not working on other races. And we just got dwarves and orcs, so it would seem kinda redundant at this current time.

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No, because we just got two more.

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That’s kind of the point of Allied Races, from what we’ve seen. Make that which should be playable, playable. The only new creation was the Void Elves, and even they were just a flawed attempt to placate those clamouring for High Elves.

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Bam! You got me. I thought their skins were included in the Maghar option but they arent. Maghar grey skin is covered in piercings while Dragonmaw have tattoos. My mistake.

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Yeah, the Dragonmaw Clan was one of the clans they chose not to include with WoD - probably because of their strongly developed identity in the mainline continuity.

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Yes. We need the other races to get their variations before we circle back to Orcs again. And it’s going to be a long time until that happens.

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I feel like it would be very easy for Blizzard to turn a switch and allow the following:

Orc: Dragonmaw Skin skintones.
Troll: Farraki, Gurubashi skintones.
Dwarf: Wildhammer Tattoos
Void Elf: High Elf Skintones.

That would probably be the best, and make a lot of players come back. Does it go against what they said? Yes, but going back on your word in cases like this isn’t always a bad idea. Especially when you are a player who logs in and find that the game feels so empty sometimes.

Fact is, Warcraft is the only stable subscription based revenue that they have right now. Even if you factor in other games, it still is a sizable chunk of money that they are losing slowly through non-action.

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t the Dragonmaw clan only emerge because of the original horde’s interaction with deathwing and enslavement of alexstraza? So it would make sense they have no place in AU draenor

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That was originally correct.

Christie Golden later retconned this, establishing the clan as pre-Dark Portal, called “Nelghor’shomash,” or Cry of the Beast. They tamed and flew rylaks, apparently.

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Ok but culturally speaking they weren’t really Dragonmaw yet, just a precursor tribe that evolved later into Dragonmaw. So basically same outcome I believe

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