Off Heals are broken

Get rid of these damn off heals. Any team that has off heals especially 2 classes with off heals is next to impossible to beat. Im playing arms/healer and i can kill the damn druid/ret pally/shadow priest/shaman or monk 5 times over with damage, but their ridiculous healing keeps them alive… Nerf hybrid healing by atleast 75%, then theyll just be under real healing specs.

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Just press your buttons harder

Sounds like you need to git gud

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You should use sharpen blade and mortal strike and CC.

This is why I think if someone is in the dps role and not healer role their heals should just heal a percent of their health. Like, flash of light, healing surge and flash heal should heal for 10% of the caster’s max health and ones that can be spammed like the monk heal should be 5%. Druid heal should be 5% + 1% per sec for the duration and word of glory should be like, 8%.

Currently their heals heal for 25-50% of their health with how casted heals work. Just leave the heals like they currently are if they are healer spec.

No just no, they’re a hybrid for a reason, if you mitigate their ability to heal is saying you should remove ALL HEALING ability from pure dps specs, its just not how the game works, there are plenty of tools to beat a hybrid spec that you are just either not utilizing or failing to achieve.

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That’s not gutting them and in fact it would put them where they were at the end of last expansion. Their heals when compared to the health were actually healing for that amount. Keeping it a percent based thing would keep it consistent throughout an entire expansion as opposed to casted heals being super strong in the start and puffing out at the end.

A warrior having a sook about balance. Call Ripley

Off heals are fine. Those classes dont have as much defensives as non hybrid classes do, maybe you are doing something wrong. nerf prot paladin to the ground please

You’re trying to kill them as Fury? Thats just not going to do it, Fury can barely meet DPS minimums in Dungeons never mind Pvp!

The only off heals I actually have an issue with right now is prot pallies.

Mainly because they literally don’t have to spend their holy power on anything besides WoG. At least rets have to decide between TV and WoG, so if they heal they don’t do damage, and if they do damage they aren’t healing.

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I feel like Arms has a Mortal Strike.

Other classes can heal??

Better nerf rogues.

Ret WoG is just as bad. Helping Hand(?) I think is the talent making it so strong.

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Yea but at least they sacrifice damage by doing it. They can’t TV if they WoG.

Prot pallies literally don’t use their holy power on anything else.

But yea overall it is a liiiiittle on the ridiculous side.

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I see this argument a lot and the issue is, TV by itself isn’t a DPS loss in PvP or rets. During wings is when rets are pushing their dmg. So until wings, they can easily give up a TV for a WoG heal for little to no loss.

Which is why, WoG isn’t the issue, but the talent that increases it based off HP loss.

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That’s a good point.

To be honest, paladin off heals were alright before, I’m wondering what on Earth possessed them to add a talent like that to ret and prot.

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