Your arguement is to say “Its possible that he is in the blade” thats all, and i said its boring.
I mean, you ask what i said, while i exactly copy pasted my message on my previous post…so why you ask if i turned the message in x or y way?
So do you think that “it is possible he used the knife to avoid death” and “It is obvious N’zoth is hiding in the knife” mean the same thing?
Get that boring talk outta here!
Well no, its not the same thing…
But i think you missed something here, the reason why i went to ask on other servers was because that other person keep syaing that it is obvious, and i dont agree on this.
Its possible, i did not say its not, i never did say its not, because even if i find it dumb, it can happen, since anything can happen (hence why its boring statement, as i said its like syaing that water is wet)
You seem to miss the fact that, i dont like the claim of 'its obvious!"
Well, apparently its 'oBVsIoUs" that its not destroyed but simply teleported : that person even told me to watch cineamtic again!!!
So yeah, apparently thats how it happenned! Thats why the wiki dont say it! Maybe you should edit the wiki page since you have the truth!
No speculating on lore, this is the Story Forum!
Also this.
Also, do you think maybe, possibly, they meant the existing clues are obvious and not “N’zoth in knife confirmed?”
Really mate? The clues you have are a literal plot hole in bfa when Azshara have the dagger while N’zoth clearly should have taken it away!
Thats literally your clue. Bad wiring.
Were we talking about what you think of the dagger remaining with Azshara, or were we talking about your framing of the discussion to uninvolved people on a third party discord?
When i asked whats your clues, you told me that N’zoth THE MOST CUNNING OF HIS KIN!!! (Never stated but still yo usaid it!) could not have been so dumb as to let the dagger that would kill him still in the hands on Azshara!
Thats your clue, literally, even if its not a clue, i mean, dude be honest, you know how bad blizz writiers are dont you? How can you be so delusional as to think they were smart enough to think like “ho yeah n’zoth clearly did that because he had a backup plan”
Not to mention 2 things :
1 - Dev team between bfa and df changed like 90% of it.
2 - A clue is not like this, a clue is different : if they had implied like you would have an npc saying like “hum its weird N’zoth kept himself vulnerable thats weird” thats a clue.
But no, its never mentioned, either by devs or anybody.
And dont be offended but, i think you did not read many sotires in your life, because it clearly shows so when you get subtext everywhere and clues everywhere…
No, you are going to stay on target for once if it kills me. You ascribed to us the position of N’zoth obviously surviving in the Blade. Whether you personally accept clues as obvious is irrelevant. You made up a position never taken: “N’zoth is obviously still in the knife” and not “there are obvious clues that could allow for N’zoth surviving.”
I’m not interested in your hallucinated arguments or misguided insults. Instead I’m going to just rub your nose in your ongoing intellectual dishonesty.
This apply not just for me thought, it apply for anybody, and in both ways, which means, that you take these cleus as obvious is also irrelevant.
But both are the same, and clues are not obvious because they are not clues i already said its not.
Better being intelectually dishonest, than intelectually ignorant.
I don’t know if you have somehow missed this, but you can scroll up at any point and read this entire discussion and avoid embarrassing yourself like this.
They aren’t the same though.
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N’Zoth is obviously still in the knife is a statement of fact. A known that leaves no room for discussion
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There are obvious clues that could allow for N’Zoth surviving means there are enough Context Clues within the fight and around the event itself that suggests N’Zoth could have foreseen his death and therefore planned ahead for such an inevitable outcome
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Are you for real? There is a difference between :
And
In the 1st one i quote (which is the second one you said): you use term Obvious, for both choices, which is why i said “its same” on the 2nd i quoted (which is the 1st you said) you use obvious AND “its possible” which make it not the same which is why i said its different.
And now you will say i am dishonest? While you literally trying to brain me here.
"It is obvious tomatoes are an option on burgers here.
“It is obvious tomatoes are on burgers here.”
OH MY GOD THEY’RE IDENTICAL
You dont get me, the moment you use “its obvious” for a theory, you are wrong, thats plein and simple.
Thats all i am saying. And thats why i am so against the use of the “its obvious maaaan”
It has been a popular theory since Ny’alotha though. It isn’t like these are obscure observations only the learned few can clock. And it isn’t even calling the theory itself obvious, but the occurrences in-game that justified the theory ever existing to begin with.
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Yes. Because you are being dishonest.
We know.
And we know that it’s affected your ability to engage in honest discussions. And to attempt to hide that dishonesty behind a wall of cropped quotes and replies.
We get it already.
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Dragonflight even reinforces the theory.
When N’Zoth whispers to us I…know you. What you were. What you will yet be. You will follow him into the deep places. The dark waters flow in his wake
And now, i will use my grand new answer that i will use a LOT on these forums : Popularity dont mean quality.
Because i know a ton of peoples use the fact it is popular as if it was a kind of “its a good theory” label.
Its not a good theory, its popularity feeds mainly on the frustration of peoples and their dissapointement.
Its ironic because, peoples theorized in bfa that n’zoth would be a big thing, but their expectations was not met, so they were angry and frustrated, so to answer the frustration of their frist theoey not working, they came up with another theory…
Its pathetic really.
And its been 5y now FIVE YEARS!!! Its pathetic since these five years.
Why people cant let N’zoth die? And why they dont go and support a better cooler old god like Yogg saron?
Basically, the theory revolve more on ignorance than anything, people dont know what happenned with the blade so they asume and hope that N’zoth is in there.
And also, you know what?
The theory revolve also highly on the fact that peoples dont accept that N’zoth lost because they rely on the statement that “defeat turn in his favor”
And this reminds me of another theory : The Primus was the true bad guy" one because people use the same arguement saying that the Primus was too smart to lose and was too smart to not be the real bad guy.
Exactly same as this theory with N’zoth, it rely mainly on frustration from players.
And i put both theories on the same level : dumb and relying on hate. which is again pathetic.
I did not hide it. And how can you even say that it blind my judgtement?
Yeah lets mention the quotes that were put by Danuser!!! Danuser is a great guy!
You know it’s still canon, right?
I feel like you should know that.
I’m not sure if you do tho.
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You keep factory-resetting to airing your personal feelings about the theory instead of the discussion occurring about it. Even if it is awful and bad writing and ruins Azshara, it doesn’t change that there are obvious things Blizz deliberately put in the game.
Primus was purely fan theory—well thought out and genuinely better than what we got in Shadowlands, but not operating on actual clues provided in game. N’zoth involved clues or situations that support the theory. And they are obvious, whether your agree with them or not.