Ny'alotha ending... Salty AF

I see what you did there.

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Even ignoring how ridiculous it looks when we killed Deathwing, at least he had an appropriate amount of gravitas.

We spent the entirety of Cataclysm weakening him and sabotaging his minions. Itā€™s pretty much explicitly shown early on, heā€™s not a threat we can take head on.

And when we do kill him? It requires the effort of every Dragonflight and a supercharged Thrall, and even then it strips the Dragonflights of their power.

Plus, like you said, a significant part of the Old Gods storyline was that they were so deeply ingrained into Azeroth that removing them without killing the planet was practically impossible.

Thatā€™s why when we beat them as adventurers, we didnā€™t ā€œkillā€ them, we basically just beat them back into dormancy.

Which is also why the Titans didnā€™t simply smoosh them like a bug. They did that to Yā€™shaarj and it was devastating for the planet, and Pandaria still feels the effects of his death, even thousands of years later.

Until suddenly it didnā€™t matter and it was retconned into us actually killing Yogg and Cā€™thun and making the point of imprisoning the Old Gods completely non-existent.

I initially didnā€™t pay much attention to the Argus defeat cinematic and was so confused about how it ended with a gigantic sword in Silithis.

Sargeras was hyped to be the ultimate bad guy for so long and then he was just gone, instantly.

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Thanks for reminding me of the depression of the orcs as well. I knew I was missing another main factor they shoehorned in for this exp.

As for the final cinematic there is a small hope there might be something decent after the mythic kill?

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Peopleā€™s reaction when the ending video is trash and cements the idea this expansion was a complete failure.

Fitting.

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I donā€™t think so. They always datamine the cinematicsā€™ existence even if itā€™s encrypted. If we had one more cinematic left wowhead would be kicking up a fuss about it right now.

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It was rushed completely to wrap up the story - but if this is the route theyā€™ve taken Iā€™d hate to see how Shadowlands goes. I really wanted Nā€™zoth to have proper justice done for all the years people waited.

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I wouldnā€™t hold your breath hoping for a canon Mythic ending.

Itā€™d be like what they did for Warfronts, where weā€™ll get a throwaway line in an interview where theyā€™ll be like ā€œactually X happened to Nā€™zothā€, but it wonā€™t ever matter because weā€™ll never see him again.

Kinda like how the cinematic shows Archimonde dying in Tanaan, but since the Mythic fight is apparently canon, he died in the Twisting Nether, so heā€™s dead for realzies.

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Orcs sad!
Orcs sad!
Orcs feeling the sad!

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Getting overpowered by the main villain only to have some titan or titan thing intervene and save the day isnā€™t similar to you?

Although, come to think of it, didnā€™t it happen in Wrath too? With Tirion? Seems to happen a lot.

I guess we arenā€™t the champions after all.

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He is dead until he isnā€™t.

Archimonde can totally come back if they want to. There are at least 2 ways to justify it:

1 - The defeat cinematic happens at Tanaan, so even though we fought him in the Nether, he came back to send Gulā€™dan to Azeroth and so he died on Draenor, so he didnā€™t die in the Nether.

2 - Even if we consider that he died in the Nether because thatā€™s where he got his mortal wounds, he died long before Argus the Unmaker, and Argus had the power to bring back even Demons killed in the Nether.

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I see people are now on this as the thing they are pretending to be upset about today. Yawn. As for the story, if you have been paying attention AT ALL to the 8.3 quests, the whole point is to attempt to use the Forge of Origination, capable of wiping out all life on the planet, and refocusing it directly on Nā€™zoth. If you havenā€™t been paying attention since Cata, thatā€™s on you.

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Well Illidan was redeemed after all the insane crap he pulledā€¦

Sheā€™s a very popular char and Ionā€™s favourite. Sheā€™s not dying anytime soon.

Heck, Argus could have been its own expansion.

Sargerasā€™ downfall felt rushed.

So at the end of the day, we only actually beat 1/4 main Raid bosses this expansion.

Gā€™huun dies.
Jaina gets away.
Azshara gets away.
Nā€™zoth beats us and MOTHER has to save the day.

Champions we are not.

Anyone else feel like this was supposed to be the faction conflict but because of the hate for the dark lady they just yeeted nzoth and azshara in there?..

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I canā€™t get on board with it looking like they just donā€™t care about BFA any more and expect us to hang on for who knows how many months until Shadowlands. Or come back to it.

Itā€™s been a long and entertaining road and Iā€™m grateful for having a game I wanted to invest so much time in, but maybe itā€™s time to part ways. If these 8.3 systems and convoluted/incomplete storylines (or ones that are supposed to play out over 5 years and/or have source material outside the gameā€¦) are anything like whatā€™s going to be the daily goings-on with Shadowlands, Iā€™ll have to pass.

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I doubt it. I think during development they realized BfA sucks, but they didnā€™t want it to be another WoD so they just released everything as is.

Jokes on them, because it became another WoD anyway.

They probably did cut out a zone from 8.3 though. And they did cut out the later warfronts actually.

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Which is stupid, because ā€œdemons only die in the netherā€ was a retcon to justify the retcon that theres only one Legion within the multiverse and explain the fact that Archimode still existed even after he got exploded at Hyjal.

Though I still want to know what happened to all the AU Archimondeā€™s and Kilā€™jaedenā€™s, since AU Velens still exist.

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No, it wasnā€™t.

It was stated in tBC during the Ogriā€™la quests.

ā€œThe problem with demons is that, once killed, they come right back in new bodies!ā€

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Look, no one ever said the people coming up with this were WRITERS or anything.

ā€¦ wait, thatā€™s their job title?
Oh, jeez.
This is awkward.

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