they said in a interview they were going to look more into changing CC but yes its a next xpac thing could be buffing sum CC removing 1 second cheap shots nobody knows
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blizzard doesnt care for AWC lol there was a meta change in the middle of it.
Congratulations, I played boomy/demo as well. And Boomy/ele. Both comps are dampeners, with demo being the more favourable of the 2 due to MS. The issue comes heavily in the fact that your goes need to be lined up with your stuns, but playing vs the comps that you dont want to play against (jungle, ret/war, dh/melee) as those comps, youâre forced to use your goes defensively and never create any meaningful pressure. Whereas, when you play with a rogue or DH, suddenly every 20 seconds you have stuns that enable you to go, and youâre basically guarenteed to get a triple CC chain out between stuns, clones, gouge, blind, etc.
The comps simply do not compare to rogue/boomy & boomy/dh and if anyone tries to argue that they are comparable, youâre on the good stuff that I need, because my copium for Boomy/arcane can only go so far. Now granted, I donât get the luxury to play with a dragon because the healers I play with for some reason cant grasp dragon gameplay, but thatâs just a different issue entirely.
Idk how you lose as FPP into that. You just do a stun go into boomy, clone or fear off the stun and then stun the dragon into another go on him. Repeat that every 20 seconds and you auto win because of the incredible PVE damage FPX has. Only scary part is if you dont have an answer to their actual goes, which realistically should not happen. You auto win vs dragons if you just do off goes into the dragon to screw their mastery as feral comps lmao.
The fact you say this, and fail to acknowledge every single r1 boomy completely relying on their teammates to save them from death, is wild. Yes, frenzied regen will do some insane healing. GS + Frenzied for instance is basically a guarenteed 100% heal, but thatâs a CD trade. But if you ever actually watch top boomy gameplay, or play into comps that eat boomies alive, you suddenly realize how much the boomy is carried defensively by their team.
No boomy is ever allowed to just be free from the enemy DPS if the opposing team is even somewhat competent at not wasting mobility, and doing semi coordinated goes. Anyone who says otherwise is a boomy/rogue player or delusional and winning games purely off people being terrible (destro players)
Remember kids, you can have goes by simply peeling with your own DPS, and then have bigger goes with your actual stuns! Thereâs a reason Boomy/mage isnât even playable when you just swap to feral instead! Stuns carry you, but people like bubble will sit there and say that boomies donât die because their team canât do goes properly.
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watch your words, potential lawsuit (back to drinking my redbull 
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They get to play the normal game like everyone else
Oh, for sure. I still think itâs important that they happen, though.
Also, I really donât like the idea of nerfing boomy defensively on top of that, because boomy is NOT significantly more survivable than warrior/dh/ret/mage/rogue etc.
You can look through my post history if you donât believe me, but i was yelling for boomy nerfs for the past 3 weeks. However, after seeing the most recent AWC, a lot of ladder, and playing several games around 2400 mmr, boomy really doesnât feel as oppressive as it did at the start of the season.
Stuff like dh+ret/dk and fury+ret/dk are super strong into boomy comps. Yes, boomies are living a REALLY long time where they used to explode, but also EVERY class is living a long time.
Last night i watched laros, challengers, and camel fight a ret+dh+dragon where the ret trinketed the first stun and bubbled the fear out to attack the boomy and never went below 20% hp the entire game pressing W the entire time and never getting off the boomy.
Obv thats not boomy+dh or boomy+rogue, but I think that speaks to the fact that its not boomy specifically; while boomy is very strong, the bigger problem is cyclone and how it interacts with and against other classes.
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The nerf wouldnât be on top - theyâd nerf frenzy for now and revisit next expansion if they decide to take a look at cyclone.
Matchup examples donât really tell the whole story. You claim fury ret is good into boomy but I watch vanguards lose as this comp the majority of the time into boomy/dh. I also watched him lose the majority of games into affliction/assa but for me to say that alone is enough to call for assa/affliction nerfs would be a hollow argument.
Boomy is too strong and there are parts of the kit that are just not subject to a tuning pass (cyclone). If they nerf boomkin survivability all that does is more so force boomkins to play their best comp(s) instead of just playing boomkin/x and actually give the matchup a chance outside of running some counter comp. This already exists for basically every non-busted spec.
Calling for clone nerfs as a solution to boomy strength at the moment is akin to drastic campaign promises.
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Missing 4s storm bolt maybe Iâd kill dh in them 
Oh, sure! Im happy to make short term changes for better seasonal balance, so long as we address the real issue long term!
I dont mind that at all, in fact i wish blizzard did that more!
My apologies, I misunderstood your argument that clone shouldnt be addressed because itâs unrealistic. You were just being pragmatic where i was being idealistic.
u remember when we went undefeated at 1800 as boomy war (were the best players alive)
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I donât even know if the problem is cyclone or more so the combination of precog existing + cycloneâs strength.
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Ofc. Even green gear couldnt stop us. Deffo carried by the 960 cr lifetime hpriest keeping us alive. Truly in the arms of an angel; Iâve never felt safer.
Dont need to kill the dh when we just do 200k dps to the DK and I press disarm 
Itâs 100% both. To be completely honest, precog is pretty overrated on every class that isnât a healer, druid, or warlock.
That dude owned low key
He was a duelist lock reroll! Glad he embraced the light.
Boomy has been god tier all xpac. Itâs wild how defensive boomies get instead of wanting a balanced game.
Sounds good in theory, but I am wary of this actually happening.
Between SL and Dragonflight feral lost a ton of FR healing(and healing in general) from the conduits, legendaries, etc and itâs why partly why feral was known as a paper spec until it got its FR un-nerfed(coupled with stam increases) like 1.5 years after Shadowlands ended.
When all the conduits buffing FR were removed, it didnât seem like they looked back to see how to fill in the gaps that were left, but instead of moved forward with the design and took the âwait and seeâ approach - which was a mess and caused no one even taking clone as feral due to its cost, and then they band-aided in the Wild Attunment PVP talent so now you still had ferals playing low vers(because they were still paper) and instead playing to abuse cyclone with astral influence instead to be competitive(having to go through starfire, sunfire, and boomy form to get so it probably wasnât intended design).
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The problems you are describing are spec agnostic. Ele had an earth shock pvp nerf for years until someone remembered to take it off. Just because this happens doesnât mean the game shouldnât be tuned appropriately short-term.
Iâd also like to think a lot of SL was an anomaly. What felt like 15 different non-core things affecting your spec/class - hopefully those are in the rear view mirror for good.
Yes you had extremely fried takes.
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itâs crazy how defensive you get whenever people bring up how you bought cr and wished death upon someoneâs children
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Donât you get tired of repeating the same thing everyday? Itâs like groundhog day.