Eh, bracers and boots (probably mogged as more anklets ala-troll/tauren) wouldn’t be overkill. Helms I can see being off the table, cloaks as well. Shirts, chest, and pants…?
They don’t want to bury the dragon in armor. The dragon’s the whole point. Limiting the mog options isn’t even unprecedented (mechagnomes), so it’s not like this is even anything new.
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That said, it could also be an effort to stop them from highlighting how woefully anemic Mail mog options are…
It’s still more options than Druids get
From personal experience, they’re not totally idiot proof.
Half of the dragon mounts wear as much armor as dragonly possible without a humanoid shape, including our new dragon riding mounts from the sounds of it, so I don’t think “feeling more like a dragon” is quite the valid excuse tbh, though the option should absolutely be there to show none if you wish to, we’re just one mog piece away from everyone being able to mog naked whenever they want.
I also disagree with the mechagnome precedent for 2 reasons:
I do agree that cloaks and helms being off the table is fine, not trying to be unreasonable, just wanting to feel like they did as much as possible, like with every other core race 
Nah, that’s simply not true - most drake mounts are unarmored, and most dragons in the game are as well. Even then, the armoring (barding) on the dragons is extremely limited. Further, a dragon in armor is still very clearly a dragon, but a draconic humanoid in armor has far less identity.
Dracthyr need to lean into the “dragon” part of their identity, and that means showcasing more of it, not less. That means relying on their natural scales for protection and leaving them on display.
As to the Mechagnome argument… while this may be a “core race” they’re clearly not treating it like one. The Dracthyr model is a recycled rigging and skeleton, making them, in technical terms, an allied race, not a core one. Maybe this’ll be changed, but the point is, the idea of a “core race” is so broad and varied that taking it to explicitly mean, “they can transmog all the things” is an interpretation, not an explicit implication or rule.
What is “core”? Does it mean a capital? Major significant characters? Fundamentally unique assets? An expansion of clear focus and story…? Who knows?
Most races don’t get a capital, core or otherwise. Allied races CAN have capitals. Core races aren’t necessarily important to the expansion they debut in. Allied races means that core races often have to share assets, even if they were “theirs” first.
The term “core” race can mean… basically whatever Blizzard wants it to mean at any given time. The most you can say about it is it isn’t an “allied” race, but that term itself is fuzzy. Does it mean “derived from another race?” No, that would exclude the Vulpera. Does it mean “variant recycled assets?” No, the Kul’tirans are wholly unique. It’s a broad term that has no hard and fast definition, the only exception being the extent to how significant it is.
And even then, I’d argue the Goblins and Worgen weren’t particularly important to Cataclysm’s main story, so what then? “Core” just seems to mean… not introduced as part of a broad swath of similar-ish scale options, and that’s about it.
So… yeah, that term doesn’t really say anything about what you can expect of the Dracthyr. It’s a blurry generalization, nothing more.
My point about them being a core race was that THEY made a big deal out of it in its announcement, implying that we should expect more from it, we can of course philosophise about what makes a race “core” and how much it matters all year long.
I won’t argue about the amount, since I have no statistics on the topic, but there ARE dragon mounts that wear armor (and a lot more according to the new hyped up feature!), and the degree to which you consider them to be armored is irrelevant to the fact that dragons have been shown to wear armor, thus it is not a departure from the dragon fantasy of some players. Why enforce a specific view of it on players, instead of giving them the power to chose? That’s very much the Bfa/Shadowlands image of “we know better than you” that they are supposedly departing from.
Right now, it feels like the “dragon” identity that will be achieved by locking them out of mogging is more Evoker players spending as long as possible wearing their human costume instead of being a dragon. Mogs are just something that people enjoy in MMOs. And if you don’t that’s ofc totally fine, we can already hide litterally everything but our pants, add that option and people that think that dragons wearing armor are stupid can be naked dragons.
One of my characters is a troll. He looks dumb in just about everything. If you want a mog character, make a character that looks good in mogs.
Druids already exist in this game, so it’s not like it has no precedent to have a class where your battle form is largely set.
I almost spit coffee. Ha ha ha. So good.
I have plenty of really good looking mogs on my zandalari druid, the mileage may vary and you are free to hide everything but the pants on your troll regardless.
I just don’t understand why so many are defending it, how does it impact you whether they can or not wear mogs? You can hide them if you don’t want them.
I see both sides of this, so I’m honestly just throwing in my 2 pennies here.
I think worgen look RIDICULOUS in their armor and always have. I have always disliked that the wolf form (which could be so COOL without the armor…like druid forms have become) wears clothing. It makes no sense whatsoever to me.
I do see this as a druid situation, but I also see the mechagnome argument here. Like I said, I get it, and I’m not trying to be contrary.
I just really dislike the worgen wearing armor in wolf form, and I’ve never been able to play one for that reason. In fairness, however, I haven’t been able to play a mechagnome, either, for the opposite reason.
there’s probably not going to be a consensus that makes people happy, but it would definitely please more people, I think, to let them mog.
Yeah, it feels half-baked. I hope that they figure out a way for people to fully gear their geckos.
Ug. You caught me doing the thing that we get brainwashed into doing with this game.
You are 100 percent right. There is no reason they should make a new class that can’t have fun with transmog. Why would they do this?
Btw, the reason is, so you make a new evoker, get it geared up, and then eventually realize that you hate not looking awesome, so then you have to reroll and/or pay for a race change, thus getting more time or money from you.
It is the Blizzard way.
phew, that feels better to be back in reality.
The thing I don’t understand, Will the transmog I’ve collected be in the barber shop too? Or is there just pre-defined clothing and armor.
That’s fair. Other people like it though. I’m sure some people will like the barber shop dracthyr options but I’m sure a large number will also be annoyed they’re locked out of mogging.
This is WoW so probably not. But more options can’t help but make more people happy. Being able to use mogging with dragon form if a player wants to and not if they don’t seems like the way to go, which is like any other race, outside of the pants slot.
Nope. Just some dracthyr specific options. You can use mogging on your visage form. But as it stands now, dragon form has no mogging other than shoulders, belts and tabard.
I am assuming it would just take them too long to make all the armor fit on a lizard.
If they give Dracthyr an option to auto-toggle into dragon form when entering combat, and auto-toggle back into vestige form when exiting combat; I will play one. If it works like Worgen currently does, I won’t play one.
RPG elements in my RPG game?! The horror D:
Head pieces aside from crowns, glasses, etc would be totally distorted. Especially if the modeling is off too far. There are a much of helms that look terrible on vulpera.
Capes make sense because wings. The clipping would be horrid.
Chest sort of makes sense since we get the tabard. I bet the majority of players are wearing a tabard but no clue what that data is. This is the one I can see arguing for but it’s moot.
Bracers are irrelevant and where the model carries a lot of its unique texture along with thighs.
Gloves are the wildcard for me, but when you trim the rest of the armor package they look out of place.
Legs are where the models carry a ton of texture, again I don’t see this as losing much. Mail legs aren’t that great looking and having dragons fly around in kilts kind of kills the vibe.
Boots are shin bracers on most of the horde races. They don’t cover feet for trolls, Tauren, vulpera, undead toes, worgen, Draenei… this isn’t that big of a loss.
The overall aesthetic is one that will look like a limber, mobile dragonkin that should be able to fly.
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TLDR you’re missing out on a chest piece that’s 90% covered by a tabard, and gloves that will stick out like a sore thumb without full armor sets.
I love transmogging. Probably the main thing that drives me doing things in the game is to get more transmog appearances, but I think it is fine that they do not have most of their armor in dragon form. Alex, ysera, malygos, Noz, and all the other dragons do wear armor in dragon form and i think it is cool that dracthyr are not wearing armor all over them in dragon form. Their whole idea is that they are using their natural strengths and magic as a dragon to fight so their scales are enough protection for them. That is why no other races can be evokers because only dragons have dragonbreath, dragon wings, dragon scales and innate dragon magic. It fits their theme and i think it will be cool to just fight as a dragon using its dragon scales as protection.