- Pretty much unkillable healers, on some maps like Gilneas they can stall a match to the point where by the time you have gotten a kill the match is over
- Matchmaking so far reminds me of Overwatch where the outcome of a game is more or less determined the moment you load into the game
- Some maps are awful to play on, in particular Deepwind Gorge, also Arathi Basin feels too big for 8 players
I hope I end up being wrong but so far it doesn’t really feel like a rated game mode. Even less than solo shuffle
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I feel ya here. As a resto shaman, usually I just take it upon myself to run flags. Last 6 WSG BGB I have been in, I ran all 3 flags from pick up to cap and was able to heal myself, CC attackers to the point that they just gave up and let me run. The fighting in the middle and AFK’ers in BGB is sad. I play to win, but, I do agree, my role as a healer should be just that, healing… not just spamming flags. That’s boring AF
This isn’t a Blitz problem. This is any PvP that doesn’t have dampening mode problem, especial any PvP that doesn’t have dampening mode and has no communication.
I haven’t felt this. I have seen a few games start really good for one site and then end with a loss. I kind of get what your saying when one side 50% of their team is MM hunters or something. That is when I feel that way. But that can be fixed and most likely will be before it goes live as rated. Matching is also all over and there seems to be 10 placement games or so before MMR starts to stabilize. But that is all in testing atm.
The way DWG and AB play are fine to me, but I can agree they do seem a little big even with mount speeds. But Gilneas still feels the worse to me.
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Priest/rsham healers vs the poor little hpally/X that tries their hardest and only does 70% of their healing. If the enemy has a Tank DH in WSG literally flying across the map against a prot warrior I hope everyone wants to leave as much as I do.
You won’t see any Monks want to tank queue. They probably have one of the most fun tank toolkits for team utility and decent abilities; but their mobility is negated by carrying the flag, as it should be. Weird concept, if only that applied to anyone else.
Would rather have no Tank queues in any of the blitz’s or bg’s in general because what does it actually bring to the game other than cheesing a couple bosses that can be rushed?
I want to play with my friends and for an MMO only being able to join with 1 as healer/dps is super great, glad I can rotate people and struggle carrying our teammates that haven’t opened their spell books. For 0 conquest on a draw and 25 on a loss it ain’t worth doing it unless you’re helping friends.
“Do 2’s or 3’s” they are so deflated this early and wont get much better it’s hard enough to carry without a zero cd CC comp. Everyone enjoys the challenge of fighting glad’s every match but it isn’t as fun as it used to be after 3 seasons. I’d have to make an alt just to drop MMR from the other seasons to play with my friends and that ain’t it chief.
Not sure why there’s such an inflated MMR(pretend) system for this garbage when there’s no rating associated with it.
I’m with ya buddy hope they make some changes to it, still love pvp but blizzard does not.
Healers are just too strong in all content, but that’s because Blizzard wants to make them easy to play to incentivize people playing them
I would tank the flag maps, but I don’t want to tank on the non-flag maps.
So I Q up as only dps.
In Overwatch, can’t you change heroes to counter the other team’s heroes?
Or do you mean there’s a noticeable skill disparity between the teams?
As a healer player myself there are def times where i feel unkillable. thats when im fighting clueless dps that do everything wrong.
for instance: i cocoon myself, and then the rogue kidney shots me/bursts me… its like why… why r u kidney shotting me when i just put a nondispellable 2 million bubble absorb on myself?
spriests trying to silence/kill me when im at 100% hp with rolling HoTs.
warriors kicking my essence font when im 100% hp
etc etc etc its so fun.
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Not you like you are going to die in that window anyway and the kick will be up multiple times during a fight. Interrupts aren’t only to help score a kill, but are used to cause a healer to fall behind a bit at a time during a team fight.
THIS. When I have dome up and a warrior pops his one shot, I almost feel bad. And the lack of communication causes is two healers to be unkillable together. I do hope the maps and feel get some reworks and adjustments with the new expansion. Right now I feel like I am playing a beta with the hope of change next xpac.
This is the game people begged for
Raid boss healers to Survive 50% dampening games
MOAR HP
MOAR VERSATILITY
MOAR PVP DEFENSIVES
All in the name of RSS, instead of listening most players don’t prefer arenas and prefer the bg experience as it always was
I can leave posts all up and down these forums about the beds these players made
Should’ve begged for nerfs to burst instead
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Also has to do with how scaling works too. Bigger health pulls, more vers/stats etc.
I always find it funny when people complain about “Unkillable Healers.” It’s like you expect a specialization that is quite literally built to keep themselves and others alive to just flop because you’re pressing buttons.
Good PVP players know that, in general, you shouldn’t waste time spamming damage into an enemy Healer. You CC them and kill their DPS. Without DPS, the Healer can do almost nothing.
Good PVP players also know that it is better to keep an enemy Healer with 0 mana alive and in combat than to kill them and refresh their mana bar.
This is called, “Game knowledge.” Game knowledge and player skill are the two main factors indicating the likeliness of success or failure. It helps us to sort people into various categories - or brackets. If you understand these things and make the right adjustments, you progress up the ladder. If you don’t understand these things, you get stuck in the lower brackets where you belong.
It is right here where the complaining starts: people stuck in the lower brackets, who couldn’t be bothered to learn how the game works and/or to improve their own gameplay, demand that the game be “Fixed” in their favour. It’s kind of like asking for the “Bumpers” in bowling. Instead of learning how to throw the ball properly so as to avoid the gutter, you just put up rails that make gutter balls impossible by default.
Leave Healers alone. Player smarter. Win more.
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I really hope in TWW they ditch the gimmicks for the rated version of this. I don’t mind the mount speed to make big maps a bit more reasonable, but I hate what they’ve done to AB/DwG. I actually kind of like how they’ve done EotS but I lose a year of my life every time I see a teammate run to a disabled node. New players going from casual bgs into this for a rated mode with all the gimmicks is gonna be super frustrating for everyone involved.
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Random BGs are dying. BGB will be the new norm. Everybody will learn how it works. Don’t sweat it.
Just had a game with 3 hunters on the enemy team, none on mine. I don’t think I need to elaborate further.
Legit trash tier game mode. Didn’t think it’d be possible for Blizz to design something that’s even worse than SS.
That’s not a BGB exclusive problem. Multiple Hunters are disgusting in any BG scenario.
Ran into this team yesterday in Blitz on EOTS map.
https://imgur.com/UPypI4V
95% of the MM hunters I run into are idiots.
These guys got demolished scoring less than 100 points total.
All 5 hunters dashed off the rock to mid and sat there the entire game doing nothing useful.
If you attacked them at all they would turtle immediately and run off.
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I suppose I need to correct myself, given your point here (a point I agree with, mind you):
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im really sick of the bots in this game mode
10 games in a row where i have ele sham / dragon / mage on my side
i ask them " PLEASE BLOODLUST!!!" but they tell me “if u want bloodlust roll a shammy”
so i go afk and tell them if they want heals to roll a healer!
screw em!!!
i am not sure people are so agsinst using bloodlust… its always my team that doesnt use it. screw it ill just afk until the next game i get insta Q as healer